I've got four brand X UHF radios, and five or six Baofeng radios in my
collection.  Because I use CHIRP, I can easily make sure that all of my
radios are configured the same way, which makes it much easier when you
hand one to a family member and tell them "go to Channel 15".  I don't have
to share a bunch of info to them, CHIRP has done all of the hard work.  I
think these are 3 or 4  different programs to set these radios up, but I
can cut and paste the channel set ups between each of the radios and they
are all set to the same basic set up.  I couldn't do that without CHIRP.
Once you get the connection through the driver set up (I'm on a Microsoft
program), it works really well.  Sometimes I have to try and connect to
them once or twice, but I've had very limited issues.

I'm a confirmed CHIRP user.  Thanks to all that do the hard work to keep it
working so well.

Larry

WRWH885
Larry Louree, PMP
Problem Solver
Palmetto, Florida  34221
cell:  407-697-1869




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> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:21:33 -0500
> From: Jeffrey Vian <[email protected]>
> Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs
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> Chirp allows programming RX freq, TX freq, shift (+-), and tone for
> repeaters then when uploaded it saves all the required data.  This is done
> in a  spreadsheet format so it is easily done by channel (and also allows
> adding a text name for display if you choose).  Different radios require a
> slightly different format of the data entered.
>
> Baofeng does not use ARS so both frequencies must be entered in the proper
> sequence when doing so manually. Most other brands use ARS so the shift
> (+-) may not even be required.
>
> Doing manual programming of a Baofeng is a multi step process for each
> channel programmed, so quickly becomes an odious task when programming more
> than one channel.  Chirp removes the many repeated keyboard strokes and
> allows entering the data and reviewing it on screen then a single upload
> programs all the memory channels at once.
>
> To me, chirp is a lifesaver on all my radios that it supports.
>
> To Steve, N1XNX
> I think that chirp now has at least a beta driver for the FTM-6000 radio.
> I had submitted a request when I got mine just after they were released and
> recently got notice that the beta driver was available.  I also have the
> RTSystems programming software for it.
>
> Jeff
> KI7GJG
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:35 AM Gary via Users <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the
> > purpose of Chirp? To be fair, all I have been using it for is my 2
> > Baofengs. I have a Wouxun KG-Q10H, but use its own programming software
> so
> > far because Chirp hasn’t picked it up yet. But if hooking up my ‘Fengs to
> > Chirp does nothing more than populate a channel list with freqs, or
> change
> > the messages, maybe you can explain what Chirp really does, what it’s
> > useful for. What are memories for if they can’t be programmed with Chirp?
> > Why are the other settings there?
> >
> > It seems to me that, at least with Baofengs, Chirp is only useful for
> > loading the radio with a list of downloaded repeaters…after that, each
> > channel has to be manually “tuned” in VFO mode in order to process the
> tone
> > and split, at least. The memory list is just there for look-up. Am I
> > missing something here?
> >
> > And the radios themselves seem to forget, or change even the manual
> > settings. I have no idea on how to make individual frequency settings
> stay
> > after programming them. In Memory mode, in VFO mode, nothing stays as it
> > was set.
> >
> > I guess it’s time to throw these junkers in the trash and actually spend
> > some $$ on a real radio.
> >
> > 73,
> > -= N4YVN =-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Unroe via Users <[email protected]>
> > Sent: June 11, 2024 19:45
> > To: CHIRP users list <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Jim Unroe <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs
> >
> > > > > On Jun 11, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have two ‘Fengs, a GT-5R and a BF-F9 V2+. I have programmed both
> > > > successfully several times, and decided to add another local
> > > > repeater to both lists. I have included a screen shot of the last
> > > > attempt on the BF-F9.
> > > > I had just updated your software, and added the W3EPE repeater to
> > > > the list (which correctly shows every entry), saved and uploaded it
> to
> > > > the radio.
> > > > >
> > > > > After disconnecting from Chirp, I attempted to access the repeater
> > > > (which is very close), and it failed. So I went into the radio menu,
> > > > and went to item #25 Offset. It was set to 000.000. Supposed to be
> > > > -5.0Mhz.  So I manually set in on the keypad and exited. Tried the
> > > > repeater again - no joy. Checked the offset - 000.000. Decided to
> > > > try the offset itself - 444.375. No repeater, offset reset to 0.
> > > > >
> > > > > Checked several other freqs on the list - list says there is one,
> > > > > radio
> > > > shows 0. Uh-oh! Grabbed my GT-5R, and downloaded it to Chirp. Then
> > > > disconnected and tried several repeaters. All worked. Used the radio
> > > > menu, and the offsets were there. So I added the new repeater to
> > > > that list and uploaded the list to the radio. Now none of the
> > > > repeaters work, and manually checking the radio, all offsets have
> > > > been reset to 0. They’re correct on the Chirp list, but the radio
> > > > (neither radio) doesn’t receive the offset data, for some reason.
> > > > AND - I can no longer manually set the offset from the radio
> > > > keyboard. As soon as I exit the menu the offset returns to 0. Both
> > > > radios are now like this. I reset the BF-F9 twice and tried
> > > > reprogramming it, with no success.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any idea what’s happening here? Chirp was working until the last
> > > > > update,
> > > > and now I can’t even manually set these offsets…
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,<IMG_0067.jpg>
> > > > >
> > > > > -= Gary =-
> >
> > CHIRP is working fine. You just don't yet understand how these radios
> work.
> >
> > These radios do not use or store 'offsets' for programmed channels.
> > Repeaters use 2 frequencies. In input frequency that it listens to and an
> > output frequency that it transmits on. In your example...
> >
> > Repeater input frequency: 449.375
> > Repeater output frequency: 444.375
> >
> > Then for anyone to access the repeater, their radio has to use the same
> > frequencies in the opposite role...
> >
> > User input frequency: 444.375
> > User output frequency: 449.375
> >
> > That's it. No offset or shift direction required.
> >
> > So when a memory channel is programmed in your radio via the keypad or by
> > using programming software from Baofeng or CHIRP, the radio is sent the
> RX
> > frequency and the TX frequency.
> >
> > Because using the 444.375+ shorthand is a convenient way for hams to
> convey
> > the frequency pair used by the repeater, CHIRP allows the user to enter
> it
> > using this notation. But then in the background CHIRP that the 3 pieces
> of
> > info (RX frequency, shift direction and offset) to calculate the actual
> TX
> > frequency and stores that in the 'image' file because that is what the
> > radio
> > uses to operate in MR (channel) mode.
> >
> > It is for this reason that menu 25 (SFT-D) and menu 26 (OFFSET) have no
> > purpose and do not function in MR mode. This is also why whenever the TX
> > frequency and RX frequency of a programmed channel are not the same (as
> > would be the case for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX disabled
> > channel), the upper status display area shows a "+-" symbol.
> >
> > If you set the MDF (Memory Display Format) of the currently selected
> > display
> > line to FREQ, you will see the RX frequency in the display.
> > Then if you tap the [*] key to put the radio into "reverse" mode (or
> press
> > the PTT button to transmit), you will see the display change to the TX
> > frequency. Tapping the [*] key a second time (or releasing the PTT
> button)
> > will return the display back to the RX frequency.
> >
> > It is only in VFO (frequency) mode that the SFT-D and OFFSET menus have a
> > purpose and function. It is only in this mode that the individual "+" and
> > "-" symbols will be seen.
> >
> > To find out what menus do not function in MR mode, consult my detailed
> menu
> > reference for the BF-F8HP.
> > https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_MenuDef.php
> >
> > Jim KC9HI
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 11:46:34 +0200
> From: Pedja YT9TP <[email protected]>
> Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs
> To: Gary via Users <[email protected]>
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> On 19.6.2024. 16:16, Gary via Users wrote:
> > After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the
> > purpose of Chirp?
> It is much easier to initially program radio using Chirp. All you have
> to do is to find list of frequencies you need and with some copy and
> paste prepare them for the radio.
>
> It also helps if you want to add new programed frequencies or even
> rearrange existing or reconfigure radio.
>
> And you may have more radios, maybe even different models or brands.
> Setting them all up manually is really tedious. Chirp makes it done in
> few clicks.
>
> --
> 73 de Pedja YT9TP
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 10:58:30 -0500
> From: Ken Hansen <[email protected]>
> Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs
> To: CHIRP users list <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>
> Gary,
>
> I'm not sure what's going on with your particular setup, but CHIRP allows
> countless thousands of happy users to successfully program their radios
> from a wide variety of manufacturers.
>
> Jim's response to your earlier email described how Baofengs operate inside
> the radio, and how CHIRP takes the users inputs from its spreadsheet
> interface and properly populates the radio.
>
> If you take your GT-5R and read its current contents into CHIRP, are the
> channels explained directly or not?
>
> If you save that data off to your HD, then create a brand new setup,
> importing from repeaterbook or manually entering several repeater
> frequencies into CHIRP then writing them to the radio, do they display/work
> as you expect in the radio?
>
> Assuming your radio is properly programmed, the average Baofeng has decent
> range (handful of miles) to a repeater when the HT is on the OEM antenna.
> If you upgrade to a better antenna (say a SignalStik or a Diamond/Nagoya
> antenna) you should have better luck hitting repeaters a bit further out
> compared to the OEM antenna.
>
> In my experience, Baofengs are good for nearby repeaters and allstar
> nodes, but quite challenging to use simplex (no repeater) in an urban area
> (I learned this at a recent parade where the team decided to try 2m
> simplex, and I couldn't hear most of the stations along the parade from my
> parade route location).
>
> Other, major brand, HTs will undoubtedly perform better, but most HTs come
> with antennas designed to fit in the box, not to maximize the performance
> of the radio in the box.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Ken, N2VIP
>
> > On Jun 19, 2024, at 09:36, Gary via Users <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the
> > purpose of Chirp? To be fair, all I have been using it for is my 2
> > Baofengs. I have a Wouxun KG-Q10H, but use its own programming software
> so
> > far because Chirp hasn’t picked it up yet. But if hooking up my ‘Fengs to
> > Chirp does nothing more than populate a channel list with freqs, or
> change
> > the messages, maybe you can explain what Chirp really does, what it’s
> > useful for. What are memories for if they can’t be programmed with Chirp?
> > Why are the other settings there?
> >
> > It seems to me that, at least with Baofengs, Chirp is only useful for
> > loading the radio with a list of downloaded repeaters…after that, each
> > channel has to be manually “tuned” in VFO mode in order to process the
> tone
> > and split, at least. The memory list is just there for look-up. Am I
> > missing something here?
> >
> > And the radios themselves seem to forget, or change even the manual
> > settings. I have no idea on how to make individual frequency settings
> stay
> > after programming them. In Memory mode, in VFO mode, nothing stays as it
> > was set.
> >
> > I guess it’s time to throw these junkers in the trash and actually spend
> > some $$ on a real radio.
> >
> > 73,
> > -= N4YVN =-
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 12:49:37 -0400
> From: Christopher Knowles <[email protected]>
> Subject: [users] Re: Two hosed Baofengs
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>      I have religiously used CHIRP on my HTs (all Baofeng (5-watt,
> 8-watt, and 10-watt)) since I got my Technician license in May 2018 at
> the age of 68.  I got my General in July and my Extra in October.  I
> also got my Volunteer Examiner certification in October.  After my HTs,
> I bought a 25-watt Lexien "mobile" as my base station and then moved up
> to a 50-watt BTECH UV-50X2 mobile. There are features in some of these
> radios that can, for all intents and purposes, only be accessed with
> CHIRP.  It's the greatest!
>
>          73s,
>
>              Christopher Knowles, WD1E
>
>
> On 6/20/2024 11:58 AM, Ken Hansen via Users wrote:
> > Gary,
> >
> > I'm not sure what's going on with your particular setup, but CHIRP
> allows countless thousands of happy users to successfully program their
> radios from a wide variety of manufacturers.
> >
> > Jim's response to your earlier email described how Baofengs operate
> inside the radio, and how CHIRP takes the users inputs from its spreadsheet
> interface and properly populates the radio.
> >
> > If you take your GT-5R and read its current contents into CHIRP, are the
> channels explained directly or not?
> >
> > If you save that data off to your HD, then create a brand new setup,
> importing from repeaterbook or manually entering several repeater
> frequencies into CHIRP then writing them to the radio, do they display/work
> as you expect in the radio?
> >
> > Assuming your radio is properly programmed, the average Baofeng has
> decent range (handful of miles) to a repeater when the HT is on the OEM
> antenna. If you upgrade to a better antenna (say a SignalStik or a
> Diamond/Nagoya antenna) you should have better luck hitting repeaters a bit
> further out compared to the OEM antenna.
> >
> > In my experience, Baofengs are good for nearby repeaters and allstar
> nodes, but quite challenging to use simplex (no repeater) in an urban area
> (I learned this at a recent parade where the team decided to try 2m
> simplex, and I couldn't hear most of the stations along the parade from my
> parade route location).
> >
> > Other, major brand, HTs will undoubtedly perform better, but most HTs
> come with antennas designed to fit in the box, not to maximize the
> performance of the radio in the box.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Ken, N2VIP
> >
> >> On Jun 19, 2024, at 09:36, Gary via Users <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> After much deliberation, I have to ask an honest question: what is the
> >> purpose of Chirp? To be fair, all I have been using it for is my 2
> >> Baofengs. I have a Wouxun KG-Q10H, but use its own programming software
> so
> >> far because Chirp hasn’t picked it up yet. But if hooking up my ‘Fengs
> to
> >> Chirp does nothing more than populate a channel list with freqs, or
> change
> >> the messages, maybe you can explain what Chirp really does, what it’s
> >> useful for. What are memories for if they can’t be programmed with
> Chirp?
> >> Why are the other settings there?
> >>
> >> It seems to me that, at least with Baofengs, Chirp is only useful for
> >> loading the radio with a list of downloaded repeaters…after that, each
> >> channel has to be manually “tuned” in VFO mode in order to process the
> tone
> >> and split, at least. The memory list is just there for look-up. Am I
> >> missing something here?
> >>
> >> And the radios themselves seem to forget, or change even the manual
> >> settings. I have no idea on how to make individual frequency settings
> stay
> >> after programming them. In Memory mode, in VFO mode, nothing stays as it
> >> was set.
> >>
> >> I guess it’s time to throw these junkers in the trash and actually spend
> >> some $$ on a real radio.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> -= N4YVN =-
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