Hi Martijn,

Thank you very much for your super and super fast response!!

In fact, I did only learn about the opaque term from the Andreas Studenski mail 
you quoted.

Trying a quick fix, I did check Settings -> Edit Global preferences (advances) 
"Remove signature" unchecking "inherit". That will hopefully help with new 
mails but not with the hundreds of mails imported from Exchange suffering from 
the issue.

I will also post the issue to the Kopano forum. There, the term "opaque" was 
used eleven times, but in other contexts. I very much hope that I will be able 
to have Felix Bartels or others understand what we are talking about.

Regards,

Michael

P.S: As both ciphermail and Kopano are Dutch, I shall say that being from 
Hamburg and living in Düsseldorf part time, I very much envy NL!


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Martijn Brinkers <[email protected]>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch 17 März 2021 18:09
> An: [email protected]
> CC: Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: [CipherMail User] Decrypted mail blank in mail client
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> The most likely reason you cannot red the email is that the email was
> first opaquely signed and then encrypted (probably by Outlook).
> 
> CipherMail removes the encryption but keeps the signed email. If the
> email was opaquely signed (which is the default with Outlook when the
> email is encrypted), you need an mail client which can handle opaquely
> signed email. If you email client cannot handle opaquely signed email,
> your best option for now is to have the gateway remove the signature
> (see settings). 
> 
> For a recent discussion about a similar issue see
> 
> 
> https://lists.ciphermail.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/thread/A5GZK43GFH6A3UIYD2ODVDKJR2RS27NF/
> 
> I will spend some time investigating two options: is it possible to
> convert an opaquely signed email to a clear signed email without
> breaking the signature or, add an option to only remove the signature
> if the email is opaquely signed
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Martijn Brinkers
> 
> -- 
> CipherMail email encryption
> Email encryption with support for S/MIME,
> OpenPGP, PDF Messenger and Webmail Messenger
> 
> On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 17:01 +0000, Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk via
> Users wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > For SOHO purposes, I have been using a chiphermail gateway for a long
> > time, traditionally in front of an Exchange server. Recently, I did
> > swich to Kopano - please feel free to guess why.
> > 
> > There was one problem with decytped mails that annoyed me with
> > Exchange but that is more critical with Kopano and I am unable to
> > describe it adequately to Kopano. It might have to do with opaque
> > signing or it might have other reasons.
> > 
> > When I receive an SMIME-encrypted e-mail, the gateway does decrypt
> > it. With Exchchange, the behavior was:
> > - decrypted message was fully visible in outlook - one could work
> > with it just as expected
> > - on Android (LineageOS, standard mail client), the decrypted message
> > was marked as encrypted and not presentable despite the fact that it
> > was in fact decrypted.
> > I found that annoying, but I could stand that. If needed, I did use
> > OWA.
> > 
> > With Kopano, the behavior is:
> > - decrypted message is shown blank in Kopano client. When downloading
> > in .eml format, it can be viewed (with Outlook, for example)
> > - on Android, the decrypted message is also shown blank. Just an
> > smime.p7m enclosure is visible.
> > 
> > I would very much welcome, if Martijn or someone else could point me
> > to the right direction to resolve this issue. Any help in describing
> > the issue to Kopano and/or in understanding which features might have
> > to be enabled in php and/or apache in use would be great.
> > 
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > 
> > Michael
> > ____________________________________________________________
> > Technische Universität Dresden 
> > Fakultät Wirtschaftswissenschaften 
> > Lehrstuhl für Entrepreneurship und Innovation 
> > Prof. Dr. Michael Schefczyk 
> > D-01062 Dresden 
> > 
> > Fon: +49-3 51-4 63-3 68 81 
> > Fax: +49-3 51-4 63-3 68 83 
> > www.gruenderlehrstuhl.de
> 
> 
>

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