On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 16:15:57 +0100, Mayavimmer wrote:

> I have tried that very thing many times. It seems to fail in complicated
> situations.

Such as?

Just out of interest (and I could have spared myself this test), I've done
another F25 installation (from Workstation x86_64 live image) to a machine
that can boot F25, F24, F22 and some other distributions already. LVM, ext4
and LUKS involved. I've asked for manual partitioning and haven't run into
any issues.

> And it never gives much of a diagnostic message beyond "your
> configuration cannot be implemented" or some such. I'll try to repeat
> those experiments and give details, starting tomorrow, if I can.

*That* might lead to something.

> >> Is there a lot of censorship on this list too?  
> > 
> > That's an irrational comment.  
> 
> No, that's a question. I am new to the list and would like to know if it
> works efficiently or it is a wasteland of egos like most of the
> internet.

That's another irrational comment. I highly recommend you don't flee into
more such off-topic comments.

> In my humble opinion the F25 installer is awkward. Can I say that?

If it makes you happy. Decide yourself.

> > and your description so far sounds like PEBKAC. ;-)  
> 
> I might accept that as your own opinion if you knew the actual details,
> which I have not given yet,

Hence my earlier requests for details.

> because I would have to reinstall yet again.
> But all you know is that I have tried manual installation and failed.

Seriously? You wrote:

  | Also note that "manual" does not seem to be very manual after all.  
  | In previous more complicated installs it chooses put new partitions
  | in seemingly arbitrary empty spaces like LVMs.

???

> Thus your contribution so far sounds like an ad hominem. ;-)

Talk is cheap.
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