Hi Michael, Ben,

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 7:23 PM Michael Schwendt <mschwe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 May 2020 12:07:35 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 4:30 AM Suvayu Ali wrote:
> > >
> > > Lately all my bug reports tend to go like this.  Are others having the
> > > same experience?
> >
> > I understand the frustration. My bugs get closed EOL, too. For what
> > it's worth, 3633 bugs were closed EOL for Fedora 30. This is
> > considerably lower than Fedora 29 (4958) and Fedora 28 (4681).
> >
> > The Fedora Join SIG is here to help new contributors get started if
> > you're interested:
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-join/index.html
>
> That process would not have helped with this kernel bugzilla ticket
> opened in 2019-08-18. But the response in March 2020 suggested reproducing
> the issue with Fedora 31 and reassigning the ticket, if the issue is still
> reproducible. That has not been done.
>
> The fundamental problem here is that it has taken a very long time for
> somebody to respond to the bug reporter. There has been no guidance and
> no hint whether anyone "somewhere" would be interested in looking into
> this issue.

It took so long, that the bug report became irrelevant.  I have since
moved to a different country, with a different job, and don't have
access to the original machine.  In fact, as mentioned in the bug, I
could reproduce a similar issue in similar hardware, with Fedora 31.
The old hardware was Ryzen 5 2400G, and the second one was Ryzen 7 PRO
3700U (a mobile CPU with similar design, don't get confused with the
2xxx vs 3xxx naming).  No response.  Even more importantly, this
started as a regression bug that renders a system unbootable; my
understanding of Fedora and Linux kernel policy says that's very high
severity, and still I saw absolutely no response.  Ironically, the bug
on 3700U got almost resolved by a very recent Fedora 32 kernel update
this month (that's 10 months, and 2 distro upgrades later).   Given
the apathy, I had not bothered any more to file a bug report
specifically for the 3700U.

This is not the first time, I had purchased the 2400G within the first
month of its release back in Feb-Mar 2018.  Understandably there were
issues (system unbootable to a desktop), even then, my bug reports did
not get a single response, me talking to myself, reporting back with
my experiments and attempted workarounds.  With the release of a new
kernel series, about 2-3 months later, all issues were resolved.  In
the least, I could have helped test any bleeding edge kernels.  I have
been using Fedora for over a decade, have contributed to the
distribution in many different ways (packaging, testing, etc).  This
is not a one off issue, I have had bugs open for many other packages,
all have faced the same fate.  If I can't participate in the
community, when I'm competent, and willing, I will regrettably move,
despite loving the distro; most likely to Arch.

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.
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