On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 11:14, stan via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:15:01 -0400 > "Garry T. Williams" <gtwilli...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hmmm. I used to be in charge of what got updated and when it got > > updated on my own machine. You indicate that there's another path > > with which to install software that I am no longer in charge of. > > That's alarming. Especially since I didn't ask for it. > > I think Gnome is moving to a multi update source model. They use > binary rpms, modules, and flatpaks. I'm not convinced this is a step > forward, but they do the work, so they make the rules. :-) > > > Well, there's the odd thing, isn't it. Before, dnf would always solve > > dependencies and install them when a package was installed. Now there > > seems to be another path used for software installation and it doesn't > > know how to handle dependencies. I don't guess I need this stuff, for > > sure. > > Yes, that is why I have restricted all updates on my system to binary > rpm only. I'll wait to see how things shake out, but this new system > seems to leave conflicts in coverage, and opportunities for security > breakage. > > I think these new methods are a mitigation for a lack of package > maintainers. By using flatpaks, they hope to offload the maintenance > of those programs to someone else. Outsourcing if you will. I'm not > sure what being a distribution means under that model. My experience > is that the people who package software in Fedora are exceptional, and > that is part of what I think of as the distribution of Fedora. > There is a worldwide shortage of exceptional people, so you want them focusing on the core system and services. Many workgroups now ( and even before COVID-19) consist of people with physical locations scattered across the globe and subject to varying enterprise IT policies. Flatpaks (when they work) offer consistency across distributions. Conda is another approach driven by the need to provide consistent environments across distros and even for Windows. I'm not sure the model holds up well for all use cases. Certainly there are problems with apps that use audio or video input devices that rely on binary blobs and/or have licenses that aren't universally acceptable to all distos. Conda is another approach -- George N. White III
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