On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 7:16 AM Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 17:37 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 13:29 -0700, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, > > > > so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 > > Just as an aside: leaving a two year old Fedora system without updating > is definitely not recommended. F35, F36 and F37 are all EOLed and don't > get even critical security updates. With F40 due for release soon, F38 > will also fall into that category in a month or two. > Thanks for giving me the guts to do a brute force power cycle in the apparent middle of an upgrade in progress. (FYI. The upgrade to F39 also hung at the boot message, and it too needed a power-cycle to successfully boot.) Now on to the philosophy issue. 'Why the delay in upgrades?' In the beginning (25+ years ago) there was no such thing as upgrades, only re-installs, so the process of reconfiguring and migrating private data and apps was tedious (on the order of days). So I wanted to avoid that. The pains were not worth the benefits. Then in corporate life, I needed to ensure a stable development environment. Upgrades still didn't exist, migrating whole development environments was a pain. But testing on other distributions and/or releases was relatively easy. (My longest gap, and most productive time, was deferring re-installs until it was F8 directly to F20) F25 to F26 was a successful migration/upgrade. Then it was back to are-install for F33 because it was a hardware replacement, and Linux/Fedora does not have a one-true backup/restore process that I have ever seen. (My first Unix was Xenix on a 286 and SCO allowed you to make an 'emergency boot floppy' and then restore a system from tape. It was a dirt simple one hour process to fully restore a system.) After F33, it became an issue that I didn't want to migrate because I'd typically be losing functionality or user-convenience. During F33 to 34/35 migration I remember losing all of my KiCad customizations for chips and connectors I had downloaded. During this F35 to F39 migration, I've lost the convenience of a Fedora supported FreeCAD. And since Wayland isn't a full-function replacement for X11 yet, I understand the next migration will break my remote X11 windows usage. (And a remote desktop is not a replacement for remote windows.) If you've read this far, thank you. I hope you appreciate my story. P.S. And with every upgrade, software just gets slower.
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