On Mon, 2024-11-04 at 09:20 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > How did you do this before?  The only difference between dnf4 and dnf5 
> > is that dnf4 will actually tell you that there's no package called 
> > "needs-restarting" where dnf5 just says there's nothing to do.  You 
> > also showed that the "needs-restarting" command is also working, so 
> > there's no issue here.
> > 
> In dnf4 I was using the tracer plugin, which seems to not work in dnf5, 
> so in dnf4 the needs-restarting was not required, although in dnf4 I 
> don't remember seeing needs-restarting as a command when issuing dnf --help.

AFAIK 'dnf --help' only lists builtin commands, not plugins. Plugins
are listed on the dnf man page (i.e. there is a fixed set available).

> With the plugins not working I was expecting to be able to issue both 
> commands at once and get the equivalent functionality to the tracer plugin.

Prior to F41 I used to use both the 'tracer' plugin and the separate
'tracer' command. IIRC the 'needs-restarting' command was an earlier
version of a similar idea, but in F41 we now have 'dnf5-needs-
restarting', which can also be invoked as a plugin (the --needs-
restarting option).

The 'tracer' command does exist in F41, but doesn't work, and there is
apparently no longer a 'tracer' plugin. The needs-restarting plugin
doesn't work either.

poc
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