On Sun, Sep 14, 2025 at 1:37 AM Tim via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
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> Tim:
> >> Hey what?!  Changing your keyboard might make something unbootable?
>
>
> George N. White III:
> > Or only booting to the other OS.
> >
> > Many laptop users have docking stations with external  input devices.
> Users with RSI
> > may require  input devices that use vendor-specific drivers.
>
> Here I have a Mac that chucks a hissy fit if I change keyboards, but I
> haven't checked if I can't boot until satisfying its needs.
>
>
Usually Macs will boot macOS without a keyboard, but you have to have
a keyboard to select linux on dual boot systems.

I use Final Cut Pro (FCP) as a video editor, and it's use of a QWERTY
> keyboard as the controller is a complete pig's breakfast of a way to do
> editing.  Clearly the programmers have never used a real edit
> controller.
>
> You can get custom controllers, at enormous costs (typically costing
> more than the computer).  But unless they provide some kind of driver
> file for FCP, they act as a rearranged QWERTY keyboard in a special
> box.  FCP will still react to you touching your real keyboard (in an
> annoying way), and your editing controller can type daft things if you
> catch a button.  And the OS wants to recognise *that* new keyboard by
> you typing some QWERTY keys that you don't know exist, or where, on the
> custom controller.
>

We used Photoshop and Illustrator to make publication quality
coastline/land
overlays on remote sensing images.  Many articles were multi-author with
authors scattered around the globe and using different hardware, so constant
issues with articles addressing a feature in the images that some authors
and
reviewers couldn't see.


>
> They've never cottoned onto that being a pain, that you will have both
> connected simultaneously, and that you don't want one interfering with
> the other (let a custom controller solely control FCP, and ignore the
> typing keyboard).  Nor how it's a pain that some common hotkey does
> different things depending which part of the window the mouse had
> clicked on.
>
> > At work we migrated from SGI IRIX64 to Apple because IRIX64 had
> Photoshop and  color
> > management.  At the time, the same image looked very different using
> Photoshop in different
> > Windows boxes, but Apple systems were consistent.  The Apple systems
> booted straight into
> > macOS unless you used the keyboard to get a list of boot options where
> you could select
> > Linux.
>
> Colourimetry is a pain between different systems.  They all have
> different ideas of how to handle gamut and monitor gamma.  Even
> standard-def versus hi-def have different schemes.  And there's various
> ideas about handling high-dynamic range video.
>

We added color calibration tools to Windows PC's for users who were
stuck with Windows systems, but may of them weren't happy with the
results as they wanted super bright colors that would never reproduce
in print.

>
> A classic simple examples is viewing photos on computers:  If you set
> the display up for useful/normal black to white range for typography
> (black text, white page), photos look comparatively dark (far worse
> than a traditional photo album, which doesn't have photos stuck on
> glowing white page).  Conversely, if you set the screen up for normal
> photographic imagery, the white backrounds in webpages and your word
> processor are glaringly too bright.  They've never quite understood the
> problem to not show page white as 100% full intensity.
>
> Film and TV learnt that decades ago.  Unless it's a surreal scene, a
> plain white background is never burn-your-eyes-out white.
>

For years, the publishers had Macs, but then they fired the graphics
people and were using contractors.  After that, images in print publications
were often useless, but they started putting the original submitted
images on web sites.  User users could download them to play with colors
and see important features on their PC's.   It is much easier to see
features
with screen gamuts than when restricted to printed images.

>
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>
> uname -rsvp
> Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024
> x86_64
> (yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted)
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