On 10 Feb 2026, at 21:24, Stephen Morris
<[email protected]> wrote:
If we need to raise issues upstream for dnf where do we raise them?
In the Fedora bugtracker
The instructions I found on the net for ensuring all the media
packages needed for vlc to play blu-rays may have been for dnf4, as
it was also using a method for identifying the group that in dnf5,
in my view, is broken. Groups have an ID and a Name, and in dnf4
you could specify the group by name enclosed in double quotes, in
dnf5 it says the value specified in double quotes doesn't exist
even though a "group list" displays that name.
As I understand it you are expected to use the ID now and not the name.
Both the ID and the description are shown as you noticed.
For example
dnf group info editors
Barry
I've replied to some threads with silly questions, so if I can
continue the trend, given that I have used the group install facility
in previous versions of Fedora and dnf by using the Name and had that
work as specified in articles on the net, how are we supposed to know
that in F43 that functionality has to be done differently?
I guess there's no way to know, but from what I understand now, that
method should never really have been used. The issue is that the name
is localized, so a command with the English name would not work on a
French localized install (unless dnf would check all the localized
names). And I just checked that and dnf4 won't install the French
name on my English system.
# dnf4 group info "Outils système"
Warning: Group Outils système does not exist.
But this works:
# LANG=fr_CA.UTF-8 dnf4 group info "Outils système"
Group: Outils système
Description: Ce groupe est un ensemble de différents outils pour le
système, tels qu'un client pour la connexion aux partages SMB et des
outils permettant de surveiller le trafic réseau.
Yes, but if a user has their system locale set to french then I would
expect the french language to work and the English language to fail as
you have shown, which is the way systems work anyway.
What annoys me though (I know the net can be misleading), is where a web
page provides instructions on what needs to done to do what it is
suggesting, and those instructions a tailored to a whole host of
different distributions, and for Fedora is specified to use a group
install with the package name rather than ID, and that command doesn't
work even though in the past I've done things that way. When it comes
back and tells the name doesn't exist, my first thought before I change
methods is "What do you mean it doesn't exist I'm looking at that name
on the screen in front of me because you have just told me it does exist?".
regards,
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