Jim wrote:

>> Alternatively, you could try using the network service instead:
>>    sudo systemctl start network.service

> I don't want to use NetworkManager, have deleted it. ( Please don't
> bring up NetworkManager any more,  It is against my religion to even
> talk about it)  My Religion is A PISS OFF NETWORKMANAGER USER.
> 
> I have eth0 ethernet working.
> 
> Now I want to get the Wireless card working on this laptop.
> But when I try to reboot to load Wireless , the Network won't start, it
> FAILs .

Why don't you try the network service, as I suggested above?
It is not the same as NetworkManager.

Before you do that you could try
  sudo iwlist scan
to see if any access points are actually accessible.




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