On 2014-04-19 06:25, Tim wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
Fedora is, by definition, bleeding edge.
Ralf Corsepius:
No, Fedora is not supposed to the bleeding edge. It's supposed to be the
cutting edge, with some occasional warts sometimes.
I would say, by way of what it actually is, it is bleeding edge. But
you're arguing over pedantics.
The Fedora website may, now, say what /they/ want Fedora to be. People
who've been using it since it used to be called Red Hat Linux, know what
it is. I'm fairly sure I've seen Red Hat describe it similarly, way
back in the beginning, or at least I know I've seen the computer print
media say so (i.e. those who review different computer systems).
It's clear that we are a test bed, whether that be Red Hat pushing
things to be tested into it, themselves, or they're just looking at what
Fedora users put into it. You can see that from what goes into Fedora
ends up on Red Hat's Linux.
That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it gets tiring to see some
people running around with their hands over their ears, "la la laaing,"
so they don't hear it.
And it can't possibly be considered as a general purpose distro, it's
just too unattractive to the casual user. The release turnover time is
way too fast, and it doesn't support encumbered products (MP3, graphics
card drivers, etc.) without technical tinkering to add it in.
Fedora will work for servers but the upgrade cycle does cause problems.
I have seen enough of them in my job.
It is cutting edge and there are issues with each upgrade that cause
problems. Some programs that don't work at the issue and even months
later are still not working due to library changes causing problems for
the developers and maintainers.
For a production server, you don't need this issue to maintain security.
Better to go with something that has a longer support.
Where I work, people use a combination of Centos, Fedora and Ubuntu.
With the Fedora users, one person is still using F14 due to the changes
over time. It is on a private network so most of the security issues
are not a factor but he has tried F20 with problems.
It comes down to how many times you have to learn new procedures and how
much time you can devote to the outside issues. Learning firewalld over
iptables is just one example that I struggled with. At work many people
have had issues with the way cups is now installed but once the
information was found, it was an easy path for the rest.
I would use Fedora for a home server in most cases. My father wouldn't.
He used Centos. So it is up to a persons own choices. For services,
I use Raspian on my Raspberry Pi but am looking at Pidora due to
familiarity of configuration. This is a time issue.
Robin
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