On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 at 00:21, Colomban Wendling <lists....@herbesfolles.org> wrote: > > Le 11/11/2020 à 22:21, Geoff Kaniuk a écrit : > > The best I can do is to report that several Debian users have come > > across this kind of problem. For example, someone asked: "Why is it so > > bad to have /usr/sbin in PATH?" The answer given in the forums was > > "Because sbin contains programs and scripts only executable by root". > > This makes sense, but what's weird is that you don't have it when under > root with sudo: > > $ sudo env | grep PATH > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin > > Basically your sudo probably doesn't reset enough of the environment, > which makes it harder to use and less secure (keeping PATH for example > is dangerous as it might trick you into running a program you didn't > expect, if someone hijacked your PATH). > > I don't think I altered my sudo configuration, so I'm not sure why you > do have what you have (but I'm under Debian, not Ubuntu), but e.g. my > /etc/sudoers contain this (among other things): > > > Defaults env_reset > > Defaults > > secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" > > Anyway, you're not alone with such a configuration that doesn't reset > most of the environment (you can find similar problems on the Web), and > that causes issues. I'm still not sure where that comes from, as I'm > almost positive I never touched this myself (and I checked on another > machine as well) so that it'd be Debian's default. I'm not sure what > Ubuntu does, but it kind of sounds odd to me they would not have > env_reset be the default, or include sbin the sudo's path. > > I'd recommend you to triple check whether your sudo config is as you > want it, and if you don't know, make sure it's Ubuntu's default. Do > *NOT* trust the bits I pasted, as it's a highly sensitive configuration, > only use sources you trust and know what they are doing (e.g. the > manual, Debian/Ubuntu's maintainer, and… that's about what I'd trust). > If you're using all the expected defaults from Ubuntu, then I'd check if > they document how to do run admin commands like that. > > All this said, for the problem at hand if it's indeed problematic with > stock Ubuntu setups, maybe we could go the sad way and hardcode > ldconfig's path;
Can we? AFAICT all ldconfig invocations are generated by autofools, and seem to be of the form "finish_cmds='PATH="\$PATH:/sbin" ldconfig -m $libdir'" so it doesn't expect sbin in PATH anyway. Cheers Lex > it's a hack for Ubuntu's broken ldconfig configuration > anyway, so it should not trigger anywhere else and we can thus use > Ubuntu's ldconfig path. I'd rather avoid that if possible so the hack > is less specific and could work on other problematic setups, but well, > yout can't always get what you want. > > Regards, > Colomban > > > > > Debian used to support gksu to get root access from a virtual terminal, > > but that is dropped in Buster. > > > > Anyway, sudo -s is useful to know! > > > > Geoff > > > > 33 Ashbury Close, Cambridge CB1 3RW 01223 710582 > > > > On 11/11/2020 11:38, Lex Trotman wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 21:31, Geoff Kaniuk <ge...@kaniuk.co.uk> wrote: > >>> > >>> I do not think I have modified $PATH from system settings: > >>> -------------------------------------------------------- > >>> ~$ echo $PATH > >>> /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games > >>> -------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Your "whereis" puts ldconfig in /sbin/ but thats not in your PATH, > >> thats the problem. I don't use debian, so I don't know why your PATH > >> is so limited. By default my Mint has: > >> > >> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin > >> > >> > >> Cheers > >> Lex > >> > >>> > >>> Geoff > >>> > >>> 33 Ashbury Close, Cambridge CB1 3RW 01223 710582 > >>> > >>> On 11/11/2020 00:24, Lex Trotman wrote: > >>>> Whats your PATH? > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:07, Geoff Kaniuk <ge...@kaniuk.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> As far as I know, nothing special. But in Debian Buster: > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> ~$ whereis ldconfig > >>>>> ldconfig: /sbin/ldconfig /usr/share/man/man8/ldconfig.8.gz > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> The error message I got was: > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> /home# make install > >>>>> ... > >>>>> /bin/bash: line 3: ldconfig: command not found > >>>>> make[4]: *** [Makefile:1660: fix-ubuntu-libdir] Error 127 > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> There is some more information in the Debian forums: > >>>>> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=147179 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Geoff > >>>>> > >>>>> 33 Ashbury Close, Cambridge CB1 3RW 01223 710582 > >>>>> > >>>>> On 10/11/2020 19:50, Frank Lanitz wrote: > >>>>>> On 09.11.20 14:17, Geoff Kaniuk wrote: > >>>>>>> 6. ~$ sudo make install > >>>>>>> On Debian that failed because of path problems locating ldconfig. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is unexpected for me. Running Debian for >10 years now and never > >>>>>> seen that need before. Do you have any special sh-configuration? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> .f > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Users mailing list > >>>>>> Users@lists.geany.org > >>>>>> https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Users mailing list > >>>>> Users@lists.geany.org > >>>>> https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Users mailing list > >>>> Users@lists.geany.org > >>>> https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Users mailing list > >>> Users@lists.geany.org > >>> https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list > >> Users@lists.geany.org > >> https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users@lists.geany.org > > https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users@lists.geany.org > https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
