Hi there,

I will check the styles for GTK.

Thanks.
Riza

On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 1:20 PM Lex Trotman via Users
<users@lists.geany.org> wrote:
>
> Dammit got off the list again, this email stuff is hard compared to Github ;-D
>
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 19:37, Guido Falsi <m...@madpilot.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 03/07/23 10:24, Lex Trotman wrote:
> > > On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 at 18:02, Guido Falsi <m...@madpilot.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 03/07/23 06:35, Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
> > >>> The width, colour and behaviour of the pane handles is set by the GTK
> > >>> theme. Here Minty-dark the handle is not very visible, but the cursor
> > >>> does change.
> > >>>
> > >>> You can either:
> > >>>
> > >>> a. change the theme to one that makes the handle visible and/or
> > >>> changes the cursor, many Linux desktops have a GUI for selecting
> > >>> themes, but don't know BSD, or
> > >>
> > >> In FreeBSD it all depends on the desktop environment being installed. I
> > >> mainly use XFCE and it has a team chooser, with various themes provided
> > >> that the user can install via package manager.
> > >>
> > >> Other DE have their own theme editors. AFAIK linux distributions too
> > >> actually use the DE provided theme editor,
> > >
> > > Correct which is why I said "Linux desktop" not distribution
> > >
> > >> only difference is that linux
> > >> distributions are usually more opinionated about  which DE is their
> > >> default one.  FreeBSD by default is installed without a GUI even (some
> > >> linux distributions do this too, arch comes to mind).
> > >
> > > I thought BSD had its own desktop, or has that been discontinued?
> >
> > Some BSD derivatives started such projects, for example there is Lumina
>
> Lumina, thats the one I was thinking of, fine.
>
> > desktop, for TrueOS, which is a FreeBSD derivative. But it's not a
> > generic BSD world project, just a project from the TrueOS creator. This
> > one is still active and also available for FreeBSD.
> >
> > AFAIK the main BSD OSes (FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD, and also
> > DragonflyBSD) do not have an own or blessed Desktop. One can install
> > whatever he wants (Mate, Gnome, XFCE, KDE etc. , or also use some old
> > fashioned window manager like FVWM2 or WindowMaker and so on). As I said
> > the main BSDs by default come without X11 nor Wayland installed. They
> > can be installed and configured after installation like any other user
> > level software package.
> >
> > >
> > > So if BSD uses the same desktops as Linux then they should have the
> > > theme selector too, just depends on which desktop the OP installed and
> > > what themes are available.
> >
> > Exactly, each DE has its own selector.
> >
> > BTW, since I use XFCE, whcih is GTK only, to configure QT themes I'm
> > also using qt5ct/qt6ct to be able to choose a dark theme for qt
> > applications (nothing available for GTK4 still, but I'm using very few
> > GTK4 applications)
> >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> b. override those elements of the theme in geany.css (or a GTK
> > >>> customisation if you want it to be global).
> > >>
> > >> This will obviously work too.
> > >
> > > But may take some effort to find the relevant items for non GTK CSS 
> > > experts.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, not very user friendly, but sometimes necessary even with ability
> > to change theme, not all themes have reasonable defaults.
>
> Not many themes have reasonable defaults IM(NS)HO.
>
> Riza,  correct, the Geany manual only lists the geany specific CSS
> nodes, not the standard GTK ones
> https://docs.gtk.org/gtk3/css-overview.html.
>
> Cheers
> Lex
>
> >
> > --
> > Guido Falsi <m...@madpilot.net>
> >
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