Am 11.04.2012 um 04:26 schrieb Ralph Castain:

> Hi Reuti
> 
> Can you replicate this problem on your machine? Can you try it with 1.5?

No. It's also working fine in 1.5.5 in some tests. I even forced an uneven 
distribution by limiting the slots setting for some machines in the queue 
configuration.

-- Reuti


> Afraid I don't have a way to replicate it, and as I said, wouldn't fix it for 
> the 1.4 series anyway. I'm not seeing this problem elsewhere, but I don't 
> generally get an allocation that varies across nodes.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Reuti wrote:
> 
>> Am 10.04.2012 um 16:55 schrieb Eloi Gaudry:
>> 
>>> Hi Ralf,
>>> 
>>> I haven't tried any of the 1.5 series yet (we have chosen not to use the 
>>> features releases) but if this is mandatory for you to work on this topic, 
>>> I will.
>>> 
>>> This might be of interest to Reuti and you : it seems that we cannot 
>>> reproduce the problem anymore if we don't provide the "-np N" option on the 
>>> orterun command line. Of course, we need to launch a few other runs to be 
>>> really sure because the allocation error was not always observable. 
>>> Actually, I recently understood (from Reuti) that the tight integration 
>>> mode would supply every necessary bits to the launcher and thus I removed 
>>> the '-np N' that was around... Could it be that using the '-np N' while 
>>> using the sge tight integration mode is pathologic ?
>> 
>> Yes, it should work without problem to specify -np. As it didn't hit me in 
>> my tests (normally I don't specify -np), I would really be interested in the 
>> underlying cause.
>> 
>> Especially as the example in Open MPI's FAQ lists -np to start with 
>> GirdEngine integration, it should have hit other users too.
>> 
>> -- Reuti
>> 
>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Eloi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Ralph Castain
>>> Sent: mardi 10 avril 2012 16:43
>>> To: Open MPI Users
>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] sge tight intregration leads to bad allocation
>>> 
>>> Could well be a bug in OMPI - I can take a look, though it may be awhile 
>>> before I get to it. Have you tried one of the 1.5 series releases?
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 3:42 AM, Eloi Gaudry wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thx. This is the allocation which is also confirmed by the Open MPI output.
>>>> [eg: ] exactly, but not the one used afterwards by openmpi
>>>> 
>>>> - The application was compiled with the same version of Open MPI?
>>>> [eg: ] yes, version 1.4.4 for all
>>>> 
>>>> - Does the application start something on its own besides the tasks 
>>>> granted by mpiexec/orterun?
>>>> [eg: ] no
>>>> 
>>>> You want 12 ranks in total, and to barney.fft and carl.fft there are also 
>>>> "-mca orte_ess_num_procs 3 " given in to the qrsh_starter. In total I 
>>>> count only 10 ranks in this example given - 4+4+2 - do you observe the 
>>>> same?
>>>> [eg: ] i don't know why the -mca orte_ess_num_procs 3 is added here...
>>>> In the "Map generated by mapping policy" output in my last email, I see 
>>>> that 4 processes were started on each node (barney, carl and charlie), but 
>>>> yes, in the ps -elf output, two of them are missing for one node 
>>>> (barney)... sorry about that, a bad copy/paste. Here is the actual output 
>>>> for this node:
>>>> 2048 ?        Sl     3:33 /opt/sge/bin/lx-amd64/sge_execd
>>>> 27502 ?        Sl     0:00  \_ sge_shepherd-1416 -bg
>>>> 27503 ?        Ss     0:00      \_ /opt/sge/utilbin/lx-amd64/qrsh_starter 
>>>> /opt/sge/default/spool/barney/active_jobs/1416.1/1.barney
>>>> 27510 ?        S      0:00          \_ bash -c  
>>>> PATH=/opt/openmpi-1.4.4/bin:$PATH ; export PATH ; 
>>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/openmpi-1.4.4/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ; export 
>>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH ;  /opt/openmpi-1.4.4/bin/orted -mca ess env -mca 
>>>> orte_ess_jobid 3800367104 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca orte_ess_num_procs 3 
>>>> --hnp-uri "3800367104.0;tcp://192.168.0.20:57233" --mca 
>>>> pls_gridengine_verbose 1 --mca ras_gridengine_show_jobid 1 --mca 
>>>> ras_gridengine_verbose 1
>>>> 27511 ?        S      0:00              \_ /opt/openmpi-1.4.4/bin/orted 
>>>> -mca ess env -mca orte_ess_jobid 3800367104 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca 
>>>> orte_ess_num_procs 3 --hnp-uri 3800367104.0;tcp://192.168.0.20:57233 --mca 
>>>> pls_gridengine_verbose 1 --mca ras_gridengine_show_jobid 1 --mca 
>>>> ras_gridengine_verbose 1
>>>> 27512 ?        Rl    12:54                  \_ 
>>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>>> 27513 ?        Rl    12:54                  \_ 
>>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>>> 27514 ?        Rl    12:54                  \_ 
>>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>>> 27515 ?        Rl    12:53                  \_ 
>>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>>> 
>>>> It looks like Open MPI is doing the right thing, but the applications 
>>>> decided to start in a different allocation.
>>>> [eg: ] if the "Map generated by mapping policy" is different than the sge 
>>>> allocation, then openmpi is not doing the right thing, don't you think ?
>>>> 
>>>> Does the application use OpenMP in addition or other kinds of threads? The 
>>>> suffix "_mp" in the name "actranpy_mp" makes me suspicious about it.
>>>> [eg: ] no, the suffix _mp stands for "parallel".
>>>> 
>>>> 
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