Hi Mikhail,

On 2022-06-02 02:51, Mikhail Brinskii wrote:

Hi Eric,

Yes, UCX is supposed to be stable for large sized problems.

Since I am highly aware about what it implies to deliver and deploy tested and verified software, I have headaches here because the validation toolchain required for an MPI library (or component of) to testify use cases with large scale computation shall requires large-scale hardware and large data-set... which is not given to everybody...

So, how can be very large use cases be tested, nighlty or in a CI, for libraries like UCX or MPI itself?  And by curiosity, how is it done for UCX?

Did you see the same crash with both OMPI-4.0.3 + UCX 1.8.0 and OMPI-4.1.2 + UCX1.11.2?

Yep!  Exactly at the same place, here is the stack for UCX 1.9.0 and OpenMPI 4.1.1:


Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:Erreur    :  MEF++ Signal recu : 11 :  segmentation violation
Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:Erreur    :
Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:------------------------------ (Début des informations destinées aux développeurs C++) ------------------------------
Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:La pile d'appels contient 27 symboles.
Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 000: reqBacktrace(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >&)  >>>  probGD.opt (probGD.opt(_Z12reqBacktraceRNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x42) [0x411942]) Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 001: attacheDebugger()  >>>  probGD.opt (probGD.opt(_Z15attacheDebuggerv+0x2a1) [0x4137b1]) Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 002: /gpfs/fs0/project/d/deteix/MEF++_petscGIREF_64bits/avx2/bin/../lib/libgiref_opt_Util.so(traitementSignal+0x1fef) [0x2b1c7a27017f] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 003: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/gentoo/2020/lib64/libc.so.6(+0x38980) [0x2b1c872fb980] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 004: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.9.0/lib/libucp.so.0(ucp_dt_pack+0x13e) [0x2b1c8ae558fe] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 005: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.9.0/lib/libucp.so.0(+0x2cc10) [0x2b1c8ae5ec10] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 006: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.9.0/lib/ucx/libuct_ib.so.0(uct_dc_mlx5_ep_am_bcopy+0xbd) [0x2b1c8b0c163d] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 007: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.9.0/lib/libucp.so.0(+0x2c557) [0x2b1c8ae5e557] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 008: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.9.0/lib/libucp.so.0(ucp_tag_send_nbx+0x34d) [0x2b1c8ae696ad] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 009: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc10/openmpi/4.1.1/lib/openmpi/mca_pml_ucx.so(mca_pml_ucx_send+0xea) [0x2b1c8ae2489a] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 010: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc10/openmpi/4.1.1/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_base_sendrecv_actual+0x94) [0x2b1c86c86cb4] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 011: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc10/openmpi/4.1.1/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_base_alltoallv_intra_pairwise+0x145) [0x2b1c86c8ccd5] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 012: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc10/openmpi/4.1.1/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_tuned_alltoallv_intra_dec_fixed+0x42) [0x2b1c86c976e2] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 013: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc10/openmpi/4.1.1/lib/libmpi.so.40(MPI_Alltoallv+0x1a3) [0x2b1c86c3a043] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 014: /gpfs/fs0/project/d/deteix/petsc-3.17.1_ompi-4.1.1/lib/libparmetis.so(libparmetis__gkMPI_Alltoallv+0x111) [0x2b1c86661211] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 015: /gpfs/fs0/project/d/deteix/petsc-3.17.1_ompi-4.1.1/lib/libparmetis.so(ParMETIS_V3_Mesh2Dual+0x10b9) [0x2b1c86674399] Fri May 27 21:23:44 2022<stdout>:# 016: /gpfs/fs0/project/d/deteix/petsc-3.17.1_ompi-4.1.1/lib/libparmetis.so(ParMETIS_V3_PartMeshKway+0x100) [0x2b1c86674e10]

And for OpenMPI 4.0.3 with UCX 1.9.0:

Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:Erreur    :  MEF++ Signal recu : 11 : segmentation violation
Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:Erreur    :
Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:------------------------------ (Début des informations destinées aux développeurs C++) ------------------------------
Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:La pile d'appels contient 26 symboles.
Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 000: reqBacktrace(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >&)  >>>  probGD.opt (probGD.opt(_Z12reqBacktraceRNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x42) [0x411a42]) Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 001: attacheDebugger()  >>>  probGD.opt (probGD.opt(_Z15attacheDebuggerv+0x287) [0x4137b7]) Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 002: /gpfs/fs0/project/d/deteix/MEF++_64bits/avx2/bin/../lib/libgiref_opt_Util.so(traitementSignal+0x1e07) [0x2aaeaea82cb7] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 003: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/gentoo/2020/lib64/libc.so.6(+0x38980) [0x2aaeb98e2980] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 004: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.8.0/lib/libucp.so.0(ucp_dt_pack+0x13b) [0x2aaebd3d407b] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 005: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.8.0/lib/libucp.so.0(+0x3872a) [0x2aaebd3e472a] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 006: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.8.0/lib/ucx/libuct_ib.so.0(uct_dc_mlx5_ep_am_bcopy+0xd3) [0x2aaebd6a4713] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 007: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.8.0/lib/libucp.so.0(+0x38ffc) [0x2aaebd3e4ffc] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 008: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Core/ucx/1.8.0/lib/libucp.so.0(ucp_tag_send_nbr+0x511) [0x2aaebd3f7b91] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 009: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc9/openmpi/4.0.3/lib/openmpi/mca_pml_ucx.so(mca_pml_ucx_send+0xbb) [0x2aaea87132eb] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 010: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc9/openmpi/4.0.3/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_base_sendrecv_actual+0x8c) [0x2aaeb955d90c] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 011: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc9/openmpi/4.0.3/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_base_alltoallv_intra_pairwise+0x13f) [0x2aaeb9562eff] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 012: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/Compiler/gcc9/openmpi/4.0.3/lib/libmpi.so.40(MPI_Alltoallv+0x1a3) [0x2aaeb9511be3] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 013: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/MPI/gcc9/openmpi4/petsc-pardiso-64bits/3.17.1/lib/libstrumpack.so(libparmetis__gkMPI_Alltoallv+0x108) [0x2aaeb15b1ca8] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 014: /cvmfs/soft.computecanada.ca/easybuild/software/2020/avx2/MPI/gcc9/openmpi4/petsc-pardiso-64bits/3.17.1/lib/libpetsc.so.3.17(ParMETIS_V3_Mesh2Dual+0x10af) [0x2aaeb081c98f] Wed May 25 21:34:02 2022<stdout>:# 015: probGD.opt(ParMETIS_V3_PartMeshKway+0x100) [0x432680]

Have you also  tried to run large sized problems test with OMPI-5.0.x?

Not for large problems, only small ones without UCX...  I am not compiling my own mpi on Compute Canada clusters, but I do in our lab for our nightly validation tests.

Regarding the application, at some point it invokes MPI_Alltoallv sending more than 2GB to some of the ranks (using derived dt), right?

I have to track down the very specific call, but I am not sure it is sending 2GB to a specific rank but maybe have 2GB divided between many rank.  The fact is that this part of the code, when it works, does not create such a bump in memory usage...  But I have to dig a bit more...

Regards,

Eric

//WBR, Mikhail

*From:* users <users-boun...@lists.open-mpi.org> *On Behalf Of *Eric Chamberland via users
*Sent:* Thursday, June 2, 2022 5:31 AM
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*Cc:* Eric Chamberland <eric.chamberl...@giref.ulaval.ca>; Thomas Briffard <thomas.briff...@michelin.com>; Vivien Clauzon <vivien.clau...@michelin.com>; dave.mar...@giref.ulaval.ca; Ramses van Zon <r...@scinet.utoronto.ca>; charles.coulomb...@ulaval.ca *Subject:* [OMPI users] Segfault in ucp_dt_pack function from UCX library 1.8.0 and 1.11.2 for large sized communications using both OpenMPI 4.0.3 and 4.1.2

Hi,

In the past, we have successfully launched large sized (finite elements) computations using PARMetis as mesh partitioner.

It was first in 2012 with OpenMPI (v2.?) and secondly in March 2019 with OpenMPI 3.1.2 that we succeeded.

Today, we have a bunch of nightly (small) tests running nicely and testing all of OpenMPI (4.0.x, 4.1.x and 5.0x), MPICH-3.3.2 and IntelMPI 2021.6.

Preparing for launching the same computation we did in 2012, and even larger ones, we compiled with bot OpenMPI 4.0.3+ucx-1.8.0 and OpenMPI 4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2 and launched computation from small to large problems (meshes).

For small meshes, it goes fine.

But when we reach near 2^31 faces into the 3D mesh we are using and call ParMETIS_V3_PartMeshKway, we always get a segfault with the same backtrace pointing into ucx library:

Wed Jun  1 23:04:54 2022<stdout>:chrono::InterfaceParMetis::ParMETIS_V3_PartMeshKway::debut VmSize: 1202304 VmRSS: 349456 VmPeak: 1211736 VmData: 500764 VmHWM: 359012 <etiq_18> Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:Erreur    :  MEF++ Signal recu : 11 :  segmentation violation
Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:Erreur    :
Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:------------------------------ (Début des informations destinées aux développeurs C++) ------------------------------
Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:La pile d'appels contient 27 symboles.
Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 000: reqBacktrace(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >&)  >>>  probGD.opt (probGD.opt(_Z12reqBacktraceRNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEE+0x71) [0x4119f1]) Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 001: attacheDebugger()  >>>  probGD.opt (probGD.opt(_Z15attacheDebuggerv+0x29a) [0x41386a]) Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 002: /gpfs/fs0/project/d/deteix/ericc/GIREF/lib/libgiref_opt_Util.so(traitementSignal+0x1f9f) [0x2ab3aef0e5cf] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 003: /lib64/libc.so.6(+0x36400) [0x2ab3bd59a400] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 004: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/ucx/1.11.2/lib/libucp.so.0(ucp_dt_pack+0x123) [0x2ab3c966e353] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 005: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/ucx/1.11.2/lib/libucp.so.0(+0x536b7) [0x2ab3c968d6b7] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 006: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/ucx/1.11.2/lib/ucx/libuct_ib.so.0(uct_dc_mlx5_ep_am_bcopy+0xd7) [0x2ab3ca712137] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 007: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/ucx/1.11.2/lib/libucp.so.0(+0x52d3c) [0x2ab3c968cd3c] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 008: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/ucx/1.11.2/lib/libucp.so.0(ucp_tag_send_nbx+0x5ad) [0x2ab3c9696dcd] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 009: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/openmpi/4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/lib/openmpi/mca_pml_ucx.so(mca_pml_ucx_send+0xf2) [0x2ab3c922e0b2] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 010: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/openmpi/4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_base_sendrecv_actual+0x92) [0x2ab3bbca5a32] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 011: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/openmpi/4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/lib/libmpi.so.40(ompi_coll_base_alltoallv_intra_pairwise+0x141) [0x2ab3bbcad941] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 012: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/openmpi/4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/lib/openmpi/mca_coll_tuned.so(ompi_coll_tuned_alltoallv_intra_dec_fixed+0x42) [0x2ab3d4836da2] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 013: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/openmpi/4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/lib/libmpi.so.40(PMPI_Alltoallv+0x29) [0x2ab3bbc7bdf9] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 014: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0-openmpi-4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/petsc-64bits/3.17.1/lib/libparmetis.so(libparmetis__gkMPI_Alltoallv+0x106) [0x2ab3bb0e1c06] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 015: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0-openmpi-4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/petsc-64bits/3.17.1/lib/libparmetis.so(ParMETIS_V3_Mesh2Dual+0xdd6) [0x2ab3bb0f10b6] Wed Jun  1 23:07:07 2022<stdout>:# 016: /scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0-openmpi-4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/petsc-64bits/3.17.1/lib/libparmetis.so(ParMETIS_V3_PartMeshKway+0x100) [0x2ab3bb0f1ac0]

PARMetis is compiled as part of PETSc-3.17.1 with 64bit indices.  Here are PETSc configure options:

--prefix=/scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0-openmpi-4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2/petsc-64bits/3.17.1
COPTFLAGS=\"-O2 -march=native\"
CXXOPTFLAGS=\"-O2 -march=native\"
FOPTFLAGS=\"-O2 -march=native\"
--download-fftw=1
--download-hdf5=1
--download-hypre=1
--download-metis=1
--download-mumps=1
--download-parmetis=1
--download-plapack=1
--download-prometheus=1
--download-ptscotch=1
--download-scotch=1
--download-sprng=1
--download-superlu_dist=1
--download-triangle=1
--with-avx512-kernels=1
--with-blaslapack-dir=/scinet/intel/oneapi/2021u4/mkl/2021.4.0
--with-cc=mpicc
--with-cxx=mpicxx
--with-cxx-dialect=C++11
--with-debugging=0
--with-fc=mpifort
--with-mkl_pardiso-dir=/scinet/intel/oneapi/2021u4/mkl/2021.4.0
--with-scalapack=1
--with-scalapack-lib=\"[/scinet/intel/oneapi/2021u4/mkl/2021.4.0/lib/intel64/libmkl_scalapack_lp64.so,/scinet/intel/oneapi/2021u4/mkl/2021.4.0/lib/intel64/libmkl_blacs_openmpi_lp64.so]\"
--with-x=0
--with-64-bit-indices=1
--with-memalign=64

and OpenMPI configure options:

'--prefix=/scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/openmpi/4.1.2+ucx-1.11.2'
'--enable-mpi-cxx'
'--enable-mpi1-compatibility'
'--with-hwloc=internal'
'--with-knem=/opt/knem-1.1.3.90mlnx1'
'--with-libevent=internal'
'--with-platform=contrib/platform/mellanox/optimized'
'--with-pmix=internal'
'--with-slurm=/opt/slurm'
'--with-ucx=/scinet/niagara/software/2022a/opt/gcc-11.2.0/ucx/1.11.2'

I am then wondering:

1) Is UCX library considered "stable" for production use with very large sized problems ?

2) Is there a way to "bypass" UCX at runtime?

3) Any idea for debugging this?

Of course, I do not yet have a "minimum reproducer" that bugs, since it happens only on "large" problems, but I think I could export the data for a 512 processes reproducer with PARMetis call only...

Thanks for helping,

Eric

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