Hi.

The shutdown make a copy of a Running machine (after make a shutdown) is... like a ordered shutdown

onevm delete, just destroy a VM (not make a copy, therefore is necesary make de scp manual to keep the lasted VM)

For example.

imagine that:

you, in 2011, make a image and upload to openebula repository (oneimage create ...). That image is a empty OS

after, you instanciate that image, and install some app (like tomcat, for example)

your machine is running during 2011, and in 2012 (365 days later) you do the following command:

onevm delete VM-ID

Now, you LOST your work during 365 days. Because OpenNebula assumes, that not need make a copy

If, instead delete, you use "onevm shutdown VM-ID". OpenNebula update your repository image. Now you have at local repository an image updated 365 days.

Hope that help :)




El 05/06/12 13:51, Mohsen Amini escribió:
Thank you for the comprehensive response.

May I ask what is the difference of
onevm shutdown
and
onevm delete
?

Thanks
--------
Mohsen Amini Salehi
PhD Student
CLOUDS Lab,
Room 5.30A, ICT building,
Department of Computing and Information Systems,
Melbourne University,
http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~mohsena <http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/%7Emohsena>



On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Alejandro Feijoo Fraga <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    The problem is at kvm dom0 (not opennebula) i have a similar
    problem some times...  but i dont know how solve...

    in my case. when that happend i just return manually the image to
    the repository.

    for example, if the image disk is 111, the VM is 4444 and the dom0
    is 99.99.99.99 i do the following

    as oneadmin

    oneimage show 111 | grep SOURCE

    that return the path, similar like that:
    /srv/cloud/one/var/images/5963e9e0f2ed9524e90c3b4c1d8b01ab

    then make a backup (backup are your friend)

    cp /srv/cloud/one/var/images/5963e9e0f2ed9524e90c3b4c1d8b01ab
    /srv/cloud/one/var/images/5963e9e0f2ed9524e90c3b4c1d8b01ab.bk

    now, i can shutdown the VM

    ssh VM && shutdown -h now

    check if at dom0 the VM is running (KVM)

    virsh list | grep one-4444

    (if no output, jump to scp command)

    else do: virsh destroy one-4444 (or destroy VMID)

    and after retreive the image:

    scp 99.99.99.99:/path/to/image/4444/images/disk.0
    /srv/cloud/one/var/images/5963e9e0f2ed9524e90c3b4c1d8b01ab

    usually disk.0 is the image correct to backup, but see
    deployment.0 file to see if you need backup other disk
    (deployment.0 file is at disk.0 directory)

    at the last, delete VM under OpenNebula (onevm delete 4444)


    Sure you yet know the steps, sorry 4 the possible spam :)

    keep in touch to see if anybody can resolve the problem to stop an
    unstoppable VM.


    El 05/06/12 10:42, Mohsen Amini escribió:
    Hello everybody,

    I came to know that onevm shutdown <vmid> does not work.

    In fact, in the begining the VM goes to the "shutdown" state but
    after some time it again changes to "runn".

    Can someone help me on this issue?

    Regards,
    --------
    Mohsen Amini Salehi
    PhD Student
    CLOUDS Lab,
    Room 5.30A, ICT building,
    Department of Computing and Information Systems,
    Melbourne University,
    http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/~mohsena
    <http://www.csse.unimelb.edu.au/%7Emohsena>



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