On 08/29/2013 08:53 AM, Carlos Martín Sánchez wrote:
Hi,

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Svancara, Randall <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi,

    I read the documentation for Open Nebula.  I understand that raw
    disks with KVM do not support snapshots (ok, I understand this is
    a technical limitation and I am migrating to qcow)

    However if I go to the Virtual Machines, click on the virtual
    machine and then select the storage tab, there is an option for
    snapshot.

    Here is where I believe the documentation falls apart for this
    tool.  What is the difference between snapshots in the snapshot
    tab and snapshot under storage.


The VM guide has two sections, one for disk snapshots [1], and another for system snapshots [2]

      Also if I attempt to use the snapshot under storage, I see this
    rather vague error:


      Error

    [VirtualMachineSaveDisk] Cannot use selected DISK. The DISK 0 is
    already going to be saved.


I have to make this product available for less technical users. So first of all, what does this even mean. Second of all, is
    there any way to provide a more intuitive error message???  I do
    not see anywhere in the interface where there is something about
    DISK 0 is going to be saved or a status of a scheduled job.


Out of context, it is a vague error message. But to get this message, you have to perform a disk snapshot, and the wizard contains a tooltip explaining what it will do:

I will have to dig through the other error logs to provide this context. Maybe qcow2 is a better format for disks???

Sets the specified VM disk to be saved in a new Image.
Deferred: The Image is created immediately, but the contents are saved only if the VM is shut down gracefully (i.e., using Shutdown; not Delete)
Hot: The Image will be saved immediately.

The Storage disk table also contains a "save as" column, that after a disk snapshot operation is filled with that new Image's ID. So, it basically means that you cannot save the disk in a new Image, because the disk is already going to be saved...



The best way to simplify OpenNebula for less technical users is to cut down the number of features exposed to them.
We allow this via Sunstone views, take a look at the cloud view [3].

Regards

[1] http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel4.2:vm_guide_2#disk_snapshoting
[2] http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel4.2:vm_guide_2#snapshotting
[3] http://opennebula.org/documentation:rel4.2:suns_views#cloud_view
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