On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Rich Megginson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 05/20/2016 11:29 AM, Jason DeTiberus wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rich Megginson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On 05/20/2016 10:54 AM, Jason DeTiberus wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Rich Megginson < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We are trying to start up a CentOS OpsTools SIG >>> <https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup> >>> https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup for logging, monitoring, >>> etc. >>> >> It almost seems to me that this is actually a meta SIG in a sense. I >> would almost expect there to be a SIG for each sub topic here. >> >> >> So we should have a logging SIG, a monitoring SIG, etc.? >> > > I believe so. I'm not completely against them living in an OpsTools SIG, I > just worry about OpsTools focusing on one type of logging and/or monitoring > framework and then a competing SIG coming along that would address others. > > > Well, for logging, we will be initially focusing on fluentd, rsyslog, > elasticsearch, and kibana, since these are the most popular, and are > already used today by OpenShift Origin and RDO. If someone wants to > support logstash, I wouldn't be against that. Would/does this overlap with > any existing SIGs? > Not that I'm aware. > The intention is that this would be the upstream for development and >>> packaging of tools related to logging (EFK stack, etc.), monitoring, and >>> other opstools, as a single place where packages can be consumed by >>> OpenShift Origin, RDO, and other upstream projects that use CentOS - pool >>> our resources, share the lessons learned, and enable cross project log >>> aggregation and correlation (e.g. running OpenShift on top of OpenStack on >>> top of Ceph/Gluster - do my OpenShift application errors correlate with >>> Nova errors? file system errors?). >>> >> I definitely love the concept, I just want to make sure that we don't >> duplicate effort being done by the existing SIGs or end up with conflicting >> efforts. >> >> >>> This would also be a place for installers (puppet manifests, ansible >>> playbooks), and possibly testing/CI and containers. >>> >> So, for OpenShift we already have the PaaS SIG that will cover >> installation and testing/CI. The Cloud SIG covers this for OpenStack as >> well. >> >> >> What about testing/CI for running OpenShift with an integrated EFK >> stack? Would that be covered by the PaaS SIG? Same with Cloud SIG, >> running OpenStack with an EFK stack for logging. >> > > I believe we would want to extend that into the PaaS SIG (I can't really > speak to the Cloud SIG), since logging and metrics are an integral part of > the complete OpenShift platform. Obviously we need to do work towards the > automated deployment of those platforms, but I would fully intend that > testing and CI coverage include the deployed logging and metrics > components. Shipping containers would also have to be tied in closely with > the PaaS SIG, since platform versions are tied to versions of the > integrated containers as well. > > > Can we use the Pass SIG testing/CI framework for testing OpenShift Origin > with the EFK stack from origin-aggregated-logging? We are looking for an > upstream home for that testing. We are currently using > ci.openshift.redhat.com for logging testing: > https://ci.openshift.redhat.com/jenkins/job/test-origin-aggregated-logging/249/ > The PaaS SIG is still in it's infancy and the testing/CI framework is still being developed. I'm cc'ing Clint since he has been driving a good bit of that work to date. > > > > >> >> >> >> There is also potentially overlap with the ConfigManagement SIG here as >> well. >> >> >>> It is intended that this will form the basis of >>> <https://github.com/openshift/origin-aggregated-logging> >>> https://github.com/openshift/origin-aggregated-logging which will be >>> built from the packages and base images provided by the SIG. >>> If you are interested, please chime in in the email thread: >>> <https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2016-May/014777.html> >>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2016-May/014777.html >>> >> >> -- >> Jason DeTiberus >> >> >> > > > -- > Jason DeTiberus > > > -- Jason DeTiberus
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