Hi

I didnt find the counter option in policy daemon after installation  of policy 
daemon. Its my request please mention the step by step where click and where i 
go to find the option because as mention in your reply counter...but i didnt 
find yout.I have to just set the policy daemon with postfix send 10 min in 60 
second thats it.please advise?


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> How are you?Sir i have a problem. I have a postfix and using gmail as a relay 
> without authentication,the problem is this postfix is just using for  sending 
> email its send 1000s of email in a  one day.I need your help i want to 
> restrict the postfix send a 20 emails in a 1min  and stop , i have tried my 
> setting but its not 
> working my server ip is blacklisted on RBL level-1 so i want to restrict it. 
> i have also use a policy daemon but i dont how to use it if you have any idea 
> about this please help me out.
> Please mentioned complete step by step guide line thanks in advance.
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> > From: ALi Ramzan <[email protected]>
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> > Hi
> > i have installed the policy daemon i want to set the restrict postfix send 
> > the 10 emails in  1min .please  help me
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:37:02 +0000
> > From: Nigel Kukard <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [policyd-users] Restrict email sending / receiving to
> >     specific email addresses
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> > On 12/13/11 06:34, Shamjith G wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am new to policyd, so please excuse if this is answered already 
> > > ..how do i set policy and access control to achieve below scenario. 
> > > please help me
> > >
> > > user [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> can sent/receive mail 
> > > only to example.com <http://example.com> or example2.com....if 
> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> try to send any other domain 
> > > other than this should bounce and [email protected] 
> > > <mailto:[email protected]> can receive mails only from example.com 
> > > <http://example.com> or example2.com <http://example2.com>.
> > >
> > > user [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> should able to 
> > > send/receive mails from anywhere.
> > >
> > 
> > You first need to setup a policy to match the email traffic you want. 
> > Then you need to add a quota to that.
> > http://policyd.org/content/policies-configuration
> > http://policyd.org/content/quotas
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> > On 12/13/11 12:23, ALi Ramzan wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > i have installed the policy daemon i want to set the restrict postfix 
> > > send the 10 emails in  1min .please  help me
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > 
> > The subject of this mail is misleading? delay vs. quota?
> > 
> > You first need to setup a policy to match the email traffic you want. 
> > Then you need to add a quota to that.
> > http://policyd.org/content/policies-configuration
> > http://policyd.org/content/quotas
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> > If you have trouble, show us what you have so far.
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:35:31 +0000
> > From: Simon Hobson <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [policyd-users] delay in postfix
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> > ALi Ramzan wrote:
> > 
> > >i have installed the policy daemon i want to set the restrict 
> > >postfix send the 10 emails in  1min .please  help me
> > 
> > Step 1 - RTFM
> > Documentation is at http://www.policyd.org/content/policyd-support
> > 
> > Step 2 - come back and ask is you have a specific question after that.
> > 
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> > 
> > 
> > You will want to be looking at the Quotas module.
> > You need to decide what you want to restrict - total emails 
> > restricted to 10/minute, 10/minute/domain, 10/minute/sender address, 
> > 10/minute/SASL User, something else ?
> > Then configure a policy to match the traffic, and a quota to control it.
> > 
> > 
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> From: Simon Hobson <[email protected]>
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> ALi Ramzan wrote:
> 
> >I have a postfix and using gmail as a relay 
> >without authentication,the problem is this postfix is just using for 
> > sending email its send 1000s of email in a  one day.
> 
> OK, so you are sending thousands of messages a day, and you are 
> sending them all through gmail. That's pretty well guaranteed to get 
> you blacklisted.
> 
> I assume from the message quantities, this is either a commercial 
> mail system, or you are hosting a popular mailing list. Unless your 
> upstream ISP provides a mail relay, then you really should be sending 
> the mail yourself, not using some third party as a relay.
> 
> At work I run a mail server handling thousands of mails a day for 
> users. We don't find blacklisting to be a problem as long as we 
> behave ourselves and keep an eye on what our users are doing. We did 
> have a case where a customer got affected by something, and their 
> systems were sending messages as fast as ours could take them - that 
> got us temporarily blacklisted, but not for long (especially since I 
> stopped the queue and put all theirs on hold, and then deleted all 
> the spam).
> 
> >I need your help i want to restrict the postfix send a 20 emails in 
> >a 1min  and stop , i have tried my setting but its not
> 
> OK, policyd can **not** do that. It can rate limit, but it will not 
> pass n messages and then stop.
> If you set the rate to (say) 10/min) then it will allow up to 10 
> messages in a short space of time - in the same second if the systems 
> will handle it. An 11th message will "trip" the system by going over 
> quota, but after a short time the counter will reduce and more 
> messages will be allowed through.
> The way the counter works is along the lines of :
> If counter is below limit :
>    permit message
>    add one to counter
> else
>    reduce counter
>    new value = old value - (old value * (t/T))
> 
> where t = delay since last attempt, T = time peeriod set in quota. So 
> if you got the quota counter up to 11, and sent a new message after 6 
> seconds, then the counter would be reduced by 11 * ( 6/60), or 1.1. 
> So the new value would be 9.9 and a new message could then be 
> permitted.
> 
> What this means is that if you just try sending messages rapidly, 
> your average rate will be held to the 10/min set, but the 
> instantaneous rate will vary a bit.
> 
> >i have also use a policy daemon but i dont how to use it if you have 
> >any idea about this please help me out.
> 
> I believe you have already been told this twice :
> 
> You need to configure a policy to handle the traffic.
> You configure which traffic "goes through" that policy using the policy rules.
> Then you configure the quota module for that policy - you configure 
> the rate, the time period that rate applies over, and whether you are 
> applying a quota to the whole system, by sender address, by SASL 
> account, or something else.
> 
> -- 
> Simon Hobson
> 
> Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed
> author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as
> Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books.
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