Just to close the loop, here’s my response to Mr. Kunard and the rest of the list.
Apparently, I am no longer allowed to post to the mailing list with my alternate email address. :( > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Adam Lanier <skee...@skeeved.org> > Date: November 9, 2015 at 6:42:50 PM EST > To: Adam Lanier <adam.lan...@gmail.com> > Subject: Fwd: [policyd-users] IPv6 support > > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: "skee...@skeeved.org <mailto:skee...@skeeved.org>" >> <skee...@skeeved.org <mailto:skee...@skeeved.org>> >> Date: November 9, 2015 at 3:50:22 PM EST >> To: users@lists.policyd.org <mailto:users@lists.policyd.org> >> Subject: Re: [policyd-users] IPv6 support >> >> On 11/09/2015 02:12 PM, Nigel Kukard via Users wrote: >>> I have abosolutely no obligation whatsoever to provide you or anyone >>> else with any kind of support, nor am I obligated in any way to maintain >>> any number of public commits over any time frame. I do however take time >>> away from my family and answer requests that I want to, when I want to >>> and I will work on the project in my free time when I am in the mood to >>> do so. >>> >>> You are not privy to any development currently happening or the number >>> of hours spent on it, nor do you have access to the enterprise >>> repository. Your consideration that the project is dead is based on your >>> own personal assumption which has no factual merrit and is quite >>> disrespectful. >>> >>> >>> Its a shame I have to waste my time answering mails like this. >> >> Firstly, let me just say that I mean no disrespect to Mr. Kunard or the >> policyd project. The company that I work for has been using policyd v1 for >> many years. Any frustration that I may have displayed is entirely due to my >> recent workload and in no way should anyone think it was directed towards >> Nigel Kunard. >> >> And I will state for the record that what I say is absolutely my own opinion >> and is of importance only to myself. And, that is to say, not of much >> importance at all. >> >> I will respond to Mr. Kunard's response though as he was kind enough to >> provide it in this instance. >> >> It is true that you have no responsibility to provide support, information >> or anything else to anyone if you so choose to withhold it. I will contrast >> your statement though against other open-source projects where the authors, >> developers and users of the software in question do provide best-effort >> support via mailing-list, IRC etc. This is a portion of how a community is >> formed around a software/development project. A thriving community is >> generally considered a desirable attribute of an open-source project. >> >> You are also not under any obligation to show anyone what super-secret code >> you are working on, nor provide any additional upgrades, updates or bug >> fixes in any specific time frame or indeed ever. I will again, however, >> contrast this attitude against other numerous open-source projects where >> code development happens more or less 'in the open'. That is, after all, >> what open-source development is all about. >> >> I am not aware of any development happening to policyd and could not be as >> it is not publicly available so obviously I could not be aware of how many >> hours development time is being applied to it. I also do not have access to >> an enterprise repository, would that I did. >> >> As stated above, my opinion regarding the liveliness of the policyd project >> is entirely my own. However, seeing as: >> >> * there is only a small amount of mailing-list traffic and the traffic I do >> see is usually someone asking a question or reporting a potential bug and, >> only rarely, getting any sort of meaningful response >> * there have been no substantive code commits in two years >> >> I stand by my statement that, as an open-source project, policyd seems to be >> dead. It's status as a closed-source commercial project I have absolutely >> no knowledge of and, therefore, decline to offer an opinion. >> >> Again, I say it is a shame because there really is nothing out there that >> offers the features that policyd does. I spent weeks attempting to get >> policyd v2 running in a new environment simply because I WANTED it to work >> in the worst way. I need these features. >> >> I have a feeling that in many environments it works well. In fact, I >> exchanged emails with several people that are using it apparently without >> issue. The details of their implementations however differ from mine in >> ways that made it apparent that it wasn't going to work in my environment. >> >> I am curious as to who is using policyd, in what environments and at what >> scale. Indeed, I asked this mailing-list that very question weeks ago. A >> dearth of responses I got. >> >> I also attempted, albeit in a cursory fashion, to engender some response >> regarding commercial support for policyd. Again, no response from anyone. >> So, if there is a commercial/enterprise version of policyd I fail to see why >> there would be any need to keep it secret. It must be difficult indeed to >> derive a suitable income from software that doesn't want to be sold and >> supported. >> >> This response is already too long, and I apologize for that. I've moved on >> to other solutions because I had too not because I wanted to. >> >> >
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