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--- Stefano Baroni - SISSA, Trieste - swift text written and sent on the go On 11/set/2009, at 21.43, Duy Le <ttduyle at gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry, I think it was my fault. Last time I suggested someone to hit > "reply" instead of creating a new email starting with "in my last > email". I did not expect he/she used Digest Mode. > > Duy > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Stefano Baroni <baroni at sissa.it> > wrote: > please, stop hitting "reply" to digest dispatches of forum posts. > this practice results in the forum members' mailboxes to be > cluttered with garbage, and also decreases YOUR chance to get > meaningul and prompt responses to your posts (people tend to throw > into the wastebasket messages with generic subjects such as " > Pw_forum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 47") > SB > > causes nuisances to the mempers of the forum who have their > mailboxes cluttered with gar > > On Sep 11, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Shaptrishi Sharma wrote: > >> Hi Stefano, >> >> My nband value is 122 as my total number of atoms are 66 .of which >> 21 Hydrogen.And if I remove the option nelup and neldw, I got it as >> "too many bands are not converged" thus I increased my vaccum, >> however it still remains the same. >> >> Thanks >> S >> >> On 9/11/09, pw_forum-request at pwscf.org <pw_forum-request at pwscf.org> >> wrote: >> Send Pw_forum mailing list submissions to >> pw_forum at pwscf.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pw_forum-request at pwscf.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pw_forum-owner at pwscf.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Pw_forum digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: problem with charge density with xcrysden >> (Stefano de Gironcoli) >> 2. [Fwd: Re: problem with charge density with xcrysden] >> (Gabriele Sclauzero) >> 3. Re: input file for isolated atom (Paolo Giannozzi) >> 4. K Points and Band structures (Shaptrishi Sharma) >> 5. Re: K Points and Band structures (Lorenzo Paulatto) >> 6. Re: K Points and Band structures (Stefano de Gironcoli) >> 7. Problem in spin polarisation (Shaptrishi Sharma) >> 8. Re: Problem in spin polarisation (Stefano de Gironcoli) >> 9. Re: Problem in spin polarisation (Duy Le) >> 10. Re: Problem in spin polarisation (Stefano de Gironcoli) >> 11. Re: Problem in spin polarisation (Paolo Giannozzi) >> 12. The low usage of CUPs (wangqj1) >> >> >> --- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:57:37 +0200 >> From: Stefano de Gironcoli <degironc at sissa.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] problem with charge density with xcrysden >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <4AAA1F11.3000805 at sissa.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> dear Dev Sharma >> the xsf file with the DATAGRID field IS NOT the output of pp.x! >> Rather its name needs to be specified in variable fileout in the >> &plot >> namelist of your density.in input >> Please read the documentation of pp.x code for the meaning of the >> other variables. >> HTH >> >> Stefano de Gironcoli - SISSA and DEMOCRITOS >> >> dev sharma wrote: >> > hi 2 all, >> > I am trying to plot the charge density with the XCrysden, but >> when i >> > am opening's XSF(file--> open structure--> open XSF(xcryden >> structure >> > file)) file , generated by my calculations, it is showing the >> > structure of my system. And i am not getting the option tools--> >> > DATA GRID as ready. Please help or advice ?? Thankful to all of >> you. >> > What i did is listed below. >> > I run my input file with command >> > /home/physics/espresso-4.0.2/bin/pp.x <density.inp> density.xsf >> > and inputs of density.in <http://density.in> are >> > &inputpp >> > prefix = 'yvo' >> > outdir = '/home/physics/work/yvo/temp/', >> > filplot = 'yvocharge' >> > plot_num= 0 >> > / >> > &plot >> > nfile = 1 >> > filepp(1) = 'yvocharge' >> > weight(1) = 1.0 >> > iflag = 3 >> > output_format = 5, >> > / >> > >> > with regards, >> > Dev Sharma, >> > University of Delhi, >> > >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pw_forum mailing list >> > Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:42:19 +0200 >> From: Gabriele Sclauzero <sclauzer at sissa.it> >> Subject: [Pw_forum] [Fwd: Re: problem with charge density with >> xcrysden] >> To: PWscf Mailing List <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <4AAA379B.4070804 at sissa.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Forwarding e-mail from Emine. So I guess it may be a compatibility >> issue. >> >> GS >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] problem with charge density with >> xcrysden >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:50:17 -0700 (PDT) >> From: e kb <eminekb at yahoo.com> >> To: sclauzer at sissa.it >> >> >> >> >> The old version of xcrysden that i had didnt work with this line : >> > DATAGRID_3D_UNKNOWN >> but with this one: >> > BEGIN_DATAGRID_3D_UNKNOWN >> >> I am not up to date on this but you can check it. >> emine kucukbenli, SISSA, Italy >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> o ------------------------------------------------ o >> | Gabriele Sclauzero, PhD Student | >> | c/o: SISSA & CNR-INFM Democritos, | >> | via Beirut 2-4, 34014 Trieste (Italy) | >> | email: sclauzer at sissa.it | >> | phone: +39 040 3787 511 | >> | skype: gurlonotturno | >> o ------------------------------------------------ o >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:44:13 +0200 >> From: Paolo Giannozzi <giannozz at democritos.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] input file for isolated atom >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <8F9E43BE-144C-4B5B-B984-327C99F59649 at democritos.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:36 , Prasenjit Ghosh wrote: >> >> > (a) while doing calculations for any zero dimensions >> > you should always set nosym =.true. >> >> for Gamma-point calculations it shouldn't make any >> difference >> >> P. >> --- >> Paolo Giannozzi, Dept of Physics, University of Udine >> via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy >> Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:45:43 +0100 >> From: Shaptrishi Sharma <sh.shapt at gmail.com> >> Subject: [Pw_forum] K Points and Band structures >> To: pw_forum at pwscf.org >> Message-ID: >> <a8a0c4080909110445j1699c8d7hccc7aeb11d00be5b at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi QEs users, >> >> Can anybody please help me in understanding what are the k >> points ?? I have >> read books a lot but its difficult to understand. >> >> And also how do we choose k points while performing a band structure >> calculation in quantum espresso when we are having 330 atoms. >> >> Thanks >> >> S >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/20090911/54396d57/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:58:19 +0200 >> From: "Lorenzo Paulatto" <paulatto at sissa.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] K Points and Band structures >> To: "PWSCF Forum" <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <op.uz3cvhgda8x26q at paulax> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> In data 11 settembre 2009 alle ore 13:45:43, Shaptrishi Sharma >> <sh.shapt at gmail.com> ha scritto: >> >> > Can anybody please help me in understanding what are the k >> points ?? I >> > have read books a lot but its difficult to understand. >> >> They are eigenvalues of the translation operator, T(R) where >> R=n1*a1+n2*a2+n3*a3; a1,a2,a3 are the cell basis vectors and n1,n2,n3 >> integer numbers. The eigenvectors are, of course, the Bloch >> wavefunctions. >> >> Because the hamiltonian is periodic it commutes with the translation >> operator, you can diagonalize both the hamiltonian and the >> translation >> operator at the same time. As a consequence each Bloch wavefunction >> has a >> well-defined energy (hamiltonian's eigenvalue) and k-point >> (translation >> eigenvalue). Using both eigenvalues you can classify the states >> without >> ambiguity, except where the bands cross. >> >> > And also how do we choose k points while performing a band >> structure >> > calculation in quantum espresso when we are having 330 atoms. >> >> It does not depend on the number of atoms. >> >> You have to test the convergence at fixed smearing. E.g. you choose a >> smearing that's small enough for you, than you increase the number of >> k-points until total energy converges. You may then try again for a >> smaller/larger smearing and see if the results are consistent. >> >> I would advise starting with a smaller system, it would take ages >> to do it >> on 330 atoms. Keep in mind that the number of k-points needed for an >> accurate sampling is directly proportional to the size of the >> Brillouin >> zone, hence inversely proportional to the size of the cell. >> >> E.g. if you estimate that 6x6x6 k-points converge a certain >> calculation >> than 3x3x3 k-points will be converge a 2x2x2 supercell to exactly >> the same >> level. >> >> Best regards >> >> >> -- >> Lorenzo Paulatto >> SISSA & DEMOCRITOS (Trieste) >> phone: +39 040 3787 511 >> skype: paulatz >> www: http://people.sissa.it/~paulatto/ >> >> *** save italian brains *** >> http://saveitalianbrains.wordpress.com/ >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:59:05 +0200 >> From: Stefano de Gironcoli <degironc at sissa.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] K Points and Band structures >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <4AAA3B89.9020002 at sissa.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Shaptrishi Sharma wrote: >> > Hi QEs users, >> > >> > Can anybody please help me in understanding what are the k >> points ?? I >> > have read books a lot but its difficult to understand. >> Please ask to any solid state physicist nearby. >> >> > And also how do we choose k points while performing a band >> structure >> > calculation in quantum espresso when we are having 330 atoms. >> If you still have QE specific doubts after you have understood Bloch >> theorem, Real and Reciprocal Space lattices, Brilloun Zone and the >> like >> please formulate them again, trying to be specific. >> > Thanks >> > S >> Please provide your affilaition. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Stefano de Gironcoli - SISSA and DEMOCRITOS >> >> > >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pw_forum mailing list >> > Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:04:08 +0100 >> From: Shaptrishi Sharma <sh.shapt at gmail.com> >> Subject: [Pw_forum] Problem in spin polarisation >> To: pw_forum at pwscf.org >> Message-ID: >> <a8a0c4080909110504l4e812201wc964e7f71fc4a2e9 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hi QE users, >> >> In one of my previous mail, I have asked about the spin >> polarisation in a >> sytem having odd number of electrons , (I have 21 hydrogen atoms in >> my >> system ). >> >> As suggested I used nelup =11 and neldw = 10, however, it is >> showing me the >> same error, as >> >> nelp out of range. >> so what shall I do now?? >> >> Thanks >> >> SS >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/20090911/3cbc0c0c/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:05:20 +0200 >> From: Stefano de Gironcoli <degironc at sissa.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Problem in spin polarisation >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <4AAA3D00.6020106 at sissa.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> what is your value for nbnd ? >> stefano >> >> Shaptrishi Sharma wrote: >> > Hi QE users, >> > >> > In one of my previous mail, I have asked about the spin >> polarisation >> > in a sytem having odd number of electrons , (I have 21 hydrogen >> atoms >> > in my system ). >> > >> > As suggested I used nelup =11 and neldw = 10, however, it is >> showing >> > me the same error, as >> > >> > nelp out of range. >> > so what shall I do now?? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > SS >> > >> > >> > >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pw_forum mailing list >> > Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:16:52 -0400 >> From: Duy Le <ttduyle at gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Problem in spin polarisation >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: >> <8974d3b20909110516p4f2a7201y58e38d3a36a9d4a7 at mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Add nelec to input >> Please just reply instead of creating a new email starting with "In >> one of >> my previous mail" so that all your emails and communications are >> ordered in >> the same thread. >> >> :-) >> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Stefano de Gironcoli <degironc at sissa.it >> >wrote: >> >> > what is your value for nbnd ? >> > stefano >> > >> > Shaptrishi Sharma wrote: >> > > Hi QE users, >> > > >> > > In one of my previous mail, I have asked about the spin >> polarisation >> > > in a sytem having odd number of electrons , (I have 21 hydrogen >> atoms >> > > in my system ). >> > > >> > > As suggested I used nelup =11 and neldw = 10, however, it is >> showing >> > > me the same error, as >> > > >> > > nelp out of range. >> > > so what shall I do now?? >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > SS >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Pw_forum mailing list >> > > Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> > > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pw_forum mailing list >> > Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Duy Le >> PhD Student >> Department of Physics >> University of Central Florida. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/20090911/0d71a230/attachment-0001.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:24:18 +0200 >> From: Stefano de Gironcoli <degironc at sissa.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Problem in spin polarisation >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <4AAA4172.7020306 at sissa.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> I think that in this case you need to explicitly specify also the >> value >> for nelec because a test that 0<=nelup< =nelec >> is performed before the default for nelec is calculated. >> It should be fixed but it is not so straightforward as the default >> value >> is presently defined much later. >> stefano >> >> Shaptrishi Sharma wrote: >> > Hi QE users, >> > >> > In one of my previous mail, I have asked about the spin >> polarisation >> > in a sytem having odd number of electrons , (I have 21 hydrogen >> atoms >> > in my system ). >> > >> > As suggested I used nelup =11 and neldw = 10, however, it is >> showing >> > me the same error, as >> > >> > nelp out of range. >> > so what shall I do now?? >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > SS >> > >> > >> > >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pw_forum mailing list >> > Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> > http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:35:30 +0200 >> From: Paolo Giannozzi <giannozz at democritos.it> >> Subject: Re: [Pw_forum] Problem in spin polarisation >> To: PWSCF Forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: <6132C5CA-B5C3-413F-ACFD-E31C9269D719 at democritos.it> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2009, at 14:24 , Stefano de Gironcoli wrote: >> >> > It should be fixed >> >> or even better, removed, since there are alternative >> and simpler methods to specify occupancies >> >> P. >> --- >> Paolo Giannozzi, Dept of Physics, University of Udine >> via delle Scienze 208, 33100 Udine, Italy >> Phone +39-0432-558216, fax +39-0432-558222 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:29:34 +0800 (CST) >> From: wangqj1 <wangqj1 at 126.com> >> Subject: [Pw_forum] The low usage of CUPs >> To: pw_forum <pw_forum at pwscf.org> >> Message-ID: >> <29861561.516411252672174463.JavaMail.coremail at >> bj126app106.126.com >> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gbk" >> >> Dear pwscf users >> I use 16 CPUs to run a job,but the usage of CPUs is very >> slow ,it as like: >> >> Tasks: 179 total, 1 running, 178 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie >> Cpu0 : 0.0%us, 4.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 90.3%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 4.5%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu1 : 0.0%us, 1.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 95.8%id, 3.3%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu2 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu3 : 0.7%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.0%id, 0.3%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu4 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu5 : 0.0%us, 0.3%sy, 0.0%ni, 99.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu6 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Cpu7 : 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni,100.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, >> 0.0%si, 0.0%st >> Mem: 8048812k total, 7995856k used, 52956k free, 283692k >> buffers >> Swap: 4192956k total, 124k used, 4192832k free, 7492420k >> cached >> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND >> 4522 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 5 0.0 17:59.16 nfsd >> 2012 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 1 0.0 6:29.01 >> kjournald >> 4404 root 20 0 104m 17m 5044 S 0 0.2 55:07.93 X >> 4519 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 18:05.58 nfsd >> 4521 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 16:55.33 nfsd >> 5023 gdm 20 0 235m 31m 11m S 0 0.4 13:39.99 gdm- >> simple-gree >> 1 root 20 0 1064 408 348 S 0 0.0 0:02.90 init >> 2 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.02 kthreadd >> 3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 >> migration/0 >> 4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.22 >> ksoftirqd/0 >> >> The ifort ,MKL,and mpi I used is : >> INTFC=/opt/intel/Compiler/11.0/081 >> INTMKL=/opt/intel/mkl/10.1.1.019 >> /opt/mpich2/bin/mpd >> My machine model is as following : >> processor : 0 >> vendor_id : GenuineIntel >> cpu family : 6 >> model : 23 >> model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410 @ 2.33GHz >> stepping : 10 >> cpu MHz : 2327.489 >> cache size : 6144 KB >> physical id : 0 >> siblings : 4 >> core id : 0 >> cpu cores : 4 >> apicid : 0 >> initial apicid : 0 >> fpu : yes >> fpu_exception : yes >> cpuid level : 13 >> wp : yes >> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr >> pge mca cmov >> pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall >> nx lm constant >> _tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est >> tm2 ssse3 cx >> 16 xtpr dca sse4_1 lahf_lm >> bogomips : 4654.97 >> ............... >> The pwscf version is espresso-4.0.3 . >> >> So , I want to know why the usage is so slow ? >> How can I solve this problem ? Anybody who meet the same >> problem ? >> Your kind help will be appreciated ! >> Best regards >> Q.J.Wang >> XiangTan University >> >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> http://www.democritos.it/pipermail/pw_forum/attachments/20090911/e349a164/attachment.htm >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pw_forum mailing list >> Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum >> >> >> End of Pw_forum Digest, Vol 27, Issue 47 >> **************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pw_forum mailing list >> Pw_forum at pwscf.org >> http://www.democritos.it/mailman/listinfo/pw_forum > > --- > Stefano Baroni - SISSA & DEMOCRITOS National Simulation Center - > Trieste > http://stefano.baroni.me [+39] 040 3787 406 (tel) -528 (fax) / > stefanobaroni (skype) > > La morale est une logique de l'action comme la logique est une > morale de la pens?e - Jean Piaget > > Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or PowerPoint attachments > Why? 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