Dear Martina Lessio,

   first of all I would say that a convergence error of 1.d-5 Ry in a 6 atom cell looks pretty much converged to me. I think that even your ecutrho = 240 Ry calculation (~1.d-5 Ry per atom) looks quite good.

   coming to the way things converge:

   - total energy convergence with respect to ecutwfc is expected to be from above because of variational principle: the higher ecutwfc is the more planewaves are included in the wavefunction expansion, hence the lower the energy. However in the ultrasoft pseudopotential definition the energy is not only a function of the wavefunctions but also includes a dependence on augmentation charges, that are localized and may contain higher Fourier components with respect to 4*ecutwfc ( = 240 in your case). Failing to include enough Fourier components in the augmentation charges will affect a number of integrals but not in a variational way... integrals would simply be inaccurate and the inaccuracy can be both from above or from below.

   - I would perform cutoff convergence test in a slightly different order: 1) I would check convergence of total energy (and stress, and forces) as a function of ecutwfc using the default value for ecutho=4*ecutwfc (that is without specifying ecutrho in the input). When this procedure converges (and it can initially converge from below due to augmentation charge Fourier components being missing) this means that wavefunction expansion AND augmentation-charge expansion are both converged. 2) I would then fix ecutrho=4*converged_ecutwfc, which takes care of augmentation charge convergence, and I would check whether I can get away with a lower ecutwfc for the wavefunction expansion.

    - as for k-point sampling convergence, there is no variational principle w.r.t. number of k-points: it's again a matter of convergence of an integral. The denser the grid the better the integral but there is no variational principle with respect to which k-point you include and which you dont.

  hope this helps

stefano


On 24/04/2018 05:56, Martina Lessio wrote:
Dear Quantum Espresso community,

I am new to Quantum Espresso and I am trying to run some simple simulations on MoTe2 bulk. Unfortunately I seem to be having some issues with some preliminary convergence tests for charge density cutoff and K-point grid and I am hoping to get some help from you on this. Here is a graph with the results of the charge density cutoff convergence test I performed while setting the kinetic energy cutoff equal to 60 Ry (I performed a test to set this as well):

I am worried about these results because I would expect the total energy to go down rather than going up when I increase ecutrho. I also observe a similar energy trend when I increase the k-point grid, which also seems unusual and possibly wrong to me. I am copying below the input I have used for these calculations and I would greatly appreciate any help with figuring our whether I am doing something wrong.

Thank you so much!

Kind Regards,
Martina Lessio

Postdoctoral Research Scientist
Department of Chemistry
Columbia University

 &control

  calculation = 'scf'

  restart_mode='from_scratch',

  prefix='MoTe2_ecutwfc',

  pseudo_dir = '/home/mlessio/espresso-5.4.0/pseudo/',

  outdir='/home/mlessio/espresso-5.4.0/tempdir/'

 /

 &system

  ibrav= 4, A=3.530, B=3.530, C=13.882, cosAB=-0.5, cosAC=0, cosBC=0,

  nat= 6, ntyp= 2,

  ecutwfc =60.0 ecutrho=300.

  nspin =4, lspinorb =.true., noncolin=.true.

 /

 &electrons

  mixing_mode = 'plain'

  mixing_beta = 0.7

  conv_thr =  1.0d-8

 /

ATOMIC_SPECIES

 Mo 95.96 Mo.rel-pbe-spn-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF

 Te 127.6 Te.rel-pbe-n-rrkjus_psl.1.0.0.UPF

ATOMIC_POSITIONS {crystal}

Te     0.333333334         0.666666643 0.625000034

Te     0.666666641         0.333333282 0.375000000

Te     0.666666641         0.333333282 0.125000000

Te     0.333333334         0.666666643 0.874999966

Mo     0.333333334         0.666666643 0.250000000

Mo     0.666666641         0.333333282 0.750000000


K_POINTS {automatic}

8 8 2 0 0 0



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