Dear Chris,

in the end it (of course) doesn't (and shouldn't) matter where you center what. You can also center the system at z=0 and the dipole at z=0.5. Just take care
that the distance between system and dipole is large enough.

Regards

Thomas

On 27.04.2018 12:06, Christoph Wolf wrote:
Dear Thomas,

thank you for your detailed reply!

If I understood this correctly, the ideal situation would be to have the slab in the center of the cell

Atom xx yy 0.5

(in crystal coordinates)

to center the dipole at 0% (=100% due to PBC) a reasonable choice would be emaxpos=0.95 and eopreg=0.10. In the dipole example they located the atoms around z=0 of the cells and put the dipole close to the center of the cell.

Muchas Gracias/Vielen Dank from Spain,

Christoph




On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Thomas Brumme <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Dear Chris,

    both planes of the dipole (the one at emaxpos and the one with the
    opposite charge at emaxpos+eopreg) have to be in the vacuum region.
    In fact, there should be enough space such that the wavefunctions are
    essentially zero at the dipole planes. However, if the dipole is
    too large,
    charge can spill into the vacuum region as plane waves are not
    localized
    on the system and the charge could be in a lower energy state at the
    dipole. In other words. don't use 50 Angstrom of vacuum as this
    will lead
    to a very low minimum in the total potential at the dipole.
    See also this paper:

    https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.85.045121
    <https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevB.85.045121>

    In this paper charged systems are discussed but similar things
    apply to
    the dipole correction. Thus, if your system is centered at 50% of the
    cell, center the dipole at zero and converge things with
    increasing the
    size along z.

    Regards

    Thomas


    On 26.04.2018 14:00, Christoph Wolf wrote:
    Dear all,

    After trying for a few days I am still a bit puzzled by the
    "proper application" of the dipole correction. To test this I
    have made a sheet of graphene added hydrogen below and fluorine
    above. I then apply the following corrections:

        tefield = .true.
        dipfield =.true.

    and

      eamp        = 0.00
      edir        = 3
      emaxpos     = 0.80 !(=16 Angstrom)
      eopreg      = 0.10 ! (=2 Angstrom)

    The cell is 20 A in total. As I shift the layer from 0% of the
    cell to 50% cell (whilst keeping above emaxpos at 80% and eopreg
    at 10% of the cell) the Fermi level shifts slightly (~0.2-0.5 eV
    difference) and the electrostatic potential (pp.x plot num 11 and
    then planar average using average.x as in the work-function
    example) is only "flat" in the vacuum region when the sample is
    about 3A from the bottom of the cell (i.e. the z coordinate of
    atoms has to be larger than 3 A).

    Reading the pw.x input I was under the impression that only
    emaxpos has to fall into the vacuum but is there also a "rule of
    thumb" for eopreg?

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Best,
    Chris


    PS: I saw the related discussion, but it does not really answer
    this I think...
    http://qe-forge.org/pipermail/pw_forum/2009-December/089951.html
    <http://qe-forge.org/pipermail/pw_forum/2009-December/089951.html>
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    Center for Quantum Nanoscience, Institute for Basic Science
    Ewha Womans University, Seoul, South Korea


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