Dear Paolo and Quantum Espresso friends,

I’m sorry, but your explanation did not enlighten me.

Your response: "it means that the symmetry operation consists in a rotation (or 
a rotation + spatial inversion) plus a translation (not a lattice one)” don’t 
ring a bell.

What kind of translational symmetry are you talking about, if not the lattice 
one?

My system has S2-Symmetry. This means a rotation about 180°, followed by 
reflection in a plane perpendicular to the rotation axis. It can be shortened 
to an inversion centre. Combined with the identity operation, this leads to 2 
Sym.Ops, which have been detected by the program. This is consistent with the 
message in the output. Since I’m dealing with a slab, the system also has 
translational symmetry. I don’t see why the inversion centre should be 
incommensurate with this translational symmetry.

What is the connection to the FFT grid?





Met vriendelijke groeten,
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
With kind regards,


Willem Offermans
Researcher Electrocatalysis SCT
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On 10 Jan 2019, at 22:00, Paolo Giannozzi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:30 PM Offermans Willem 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

     2 Sym. Ops., with inversion, found ( 1 have fractional translation)
[...] What does it mean?

it means that the symmetry operation consists in a rotation (or a rotation + 
spatial inversion) plus a translation (not a lattice one)

At some point in the sequence of calculations, the output contained the 
following message about symmetry:

    No symmetry found

I was surprised about the lost of symmetry. Is it related to the fractional 
translation?

no, unless this happens in the last scf step, in which the FFT grid may change, 
in which case this is what may happen:

          (note:  1 additional sym.ops. were found but ignored
           their fractional translations are incommensurate with FFT grid)
Paolo
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