Hi Sankha,

Great that the levels are now closer! For the output my guess is that this is 
(sort of) a bug, due to the fact that during an NSCF calculation the code does 
not pass by the corresponding output routine of Environ. The correction really 
only depends on the size of the cell and on the valence of the atoms in the 
cell, so for two calculations with the same atoms and the same cell, the number 
should be the same. Thus, you can safely use the same number reported in the 
SCF calculation also for the NSCF one. I will check in the code why it is not 
printed in the NSCF calculation, but if it is a bug, it will only be fixed in 
the next release of Environ. Thanks for reporting the problem, please let me 
know if you have other issues.

Best,

Oliviero

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On Mar 6, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Sankha Mukherjee 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Dear Professor Andreussi,

I realized I did not include that additional flag environ_restart for the nscf 
runs. Thank you.

The printed Fermi levels are closer in value now, but the ‘pbc correction’ is 
still only output for the scf run and not the nscf run.

scf gives a Fermi level of -3.9197 eV which needs to be corrected by -0.1819 
eV, and nscf gives only a Fermi level of -3.9185 eV without the correction. 
Please advise, which value should we use.

Best,

Sankha


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Hi Sankha,

I am sorry I misunderstood your previous message. The discrepancy that worries 
you is between nscf and scf, not between dielectric and vacuum, correct? My 
guess is that you are not running the nscf with Environ. You need to specify 
environ_restart = true in the Environ input file, and maybe you should also set 
environ_thr to a large value, otherwise PW will not pass through the Environ 
calculation. Let me know if this solves the problem or if you had already setup 
the calculation like this. As for the printout of the Fermi correction for the 
parabolic correction, I am not sure why is not in the output, it may be due to 
the problem above or a different issue, but it should be the same as in the scf 
calculation.

Best,

Oliviero

On Mar 5, 2019, at 9:08 PM, Sankha Mukherjee 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Professor Andreussi,

Thank you for your detailed response.

I would just like to confirm that the correction for which you are referring is 
the line that states "the Fermi energy shift due to the parabolic 
pbc-correction is  -0.1819 ev".

For the nscf output, however, I cannot seem to find the equivalent correction 
line, and the Fermi energy is output without any additional lines after it.

The printed Fermi energy in the scf run file is -3.9197 eV, and with the 
correction becomes -4.1016 eV. However, in the nscf output the Fermi energy is 
printed as -1.7056 eV.

Best,

Sankha Mukherjee

University of Toronto


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Sent: March-05-19 8:57 PM
To: Quantum Espresso users Forum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Hi Sankha,

Thanks for reporting your doubts with Environ. Similarly to the potential, the 
Fermi energy is defined up to an additive constant which is not uniquely 
defined. If you introduce the dielectric, the Fermi energy changes. If you look 
at the value of the Fermi energy with respect to the value of the potential in 
the vacuum, I.e. the workfunction, and you compare it to the same quantity in 
solution (a.k.a. the potential of zero charge) you should expect them to be 
different. Having said this, the way the potential is shifted inside of Environ 
is probably different from a standard calculation in vacuum and depends on the 
pbc correction that you use. Please pay attention to the fact that in an 
Environ calculation there is a correction that needs to be added to the Fermi 
energy and is printed out in the output a few lines after the Fermi energy 
itself.

I hope this helps, if you have other problems or doubts, please let me know.

Regards,

Oliviero Andreussi
University of North Texas


On Mar 5, 2019, at 7:39 PM, Sankha Mukherjee 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello all,

I am working on catalysis related projects using Environ. When running SCF and 
subsequently NSCF using Environ I have noticed a discrepancy between the values 
of the Fermi levels when introducing a dielectric constant >1. Considering the 
vacuum case, these Fermi energies are nearly identical however.

I was wondering how the permittivity of the medium could be causing this 
contrast, and if there is one of these values I can trust more than the other.

Thanks,

Sankha Mukherjee
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