Dear Alex
Only a comment: Why do you need to be so tightly close to experimental lattice parameters? They are generally not the final output of a bunch of simulations. As you are not trying to validate a new functional or some new correction, your results seem to be close enough to experimental data to ensure the calculation of further parameters (DOS, band structure, absorption spectroscopy, conductivity, ...). If you need *exactly* to work with experimental lattice parameters for some reason instead, then use experimental values and do not perform vc-relax but relax calculations. Otherwise, I would start asking which experimental parameters are you trying to reproduce, e.g., at which temperature, how many defects were present in the experimental sample, ... And I would answer that a "true experimental value" probably does not exist...

As you need practical answers and not philosophical ones, I would be satisfied of a result within 1% from "some measurements"

HTH
Giuseppe


Aleksandra Oranskaia <aleksandra.oransk...@kaust.edu.sa> ha scritto:

Right now I am testing some desperate approaches like increasing k-points, decreasing mixing_beta together with trust_radii to force systems to change sightly fro step to step in vc-relax, etc.

I also thought that more precise calculation of stresses (in vc-relx routine) might help, does anyone have experience with parameters involved in stress calculations like ecfixed, qcutz, q2sigma?



Best,
Alex.
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Dear QE users and developers,

1 When dealing with orthorhombic systems, I start with space_group super-tight relaxation of the atomic positions (keeping right balance in force and scf accuracy, increasing ecutrho plus 100 Ry than my system actually requires, etc), continue with vc-relax using dofree = ibrav (and press_thr = 0.0), and Always obtain at least one lattice constant screwed up (with an error like +/- 0.1 A as compared to the experimental constant). I tried 1000 setups for a few systems (varying functionals, vdw corrections, different pseudo libraries, etc) and have a feeling that sth is not right with vc-relax: for other than orthorhombic systems the results match the experimental lattice constants with an acceptable error.

2 I was wondering how vc-relax work for big orthorhombic unit cells. I took alpha-S8 (space group 70, so 128 atoms turn into 32 within ibrav = 10 with 8 symmetry elements) and am not satisfied with any lattice constants: on PBEsol level, error in volume is <1% as compared to the experimental unit cell, but lattice constants are like 10.602 (exp: 10.465), 12.937 (exp: 12.866), 24.286 (exp: 24.486) A that do not look acceptable at all :-(

I would hugely appreciate any comments,


Thanks,
Alex.
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