A simpler but often effective trick: sometimes at (or after) the first step your system may be trapped in an unlucky configuration that prevent convergence of the scf iteration. You can either do as Matteo says, or try (after inspecting the geometry of the second step to be sure that your system isn't going bananas) to use the switch scf_must_converge=.false. Such switch forces the bfgs step even if the wfc is not fully converged, and it is sensible only if your wfc is not very far from convergence and in the initial steps of a 'relax' calculation. If you are lucky, in a few steps you jump out of your "Bermuda triangle" and further steps converge in a smoother way.
HTH
Giuseppe

Quoting Coralie Khabbaz <[email protected]>:

Hello Matteo,

Thank you so much for your reply. I didn't understand what do you mean by
initial trust radius? Also, at first my convergence threshold was at 1^-6
but the first scf step didn't converge in 1000 steps. Then, I fixed it at
1^-4 and the first step converged. So do you think I should tighten it? I
didn't try starting a new scf from the new iconic positions because I don't
know how to.

This is my input file:

&CONTROL
    calculation   = "relax"
    forc_conv_thr =  1.00000e-03
    max_seconds   =  4.32000e+05
    nstep         = 300
    pseudo_dir    = "/home/coralee/projects/def-jkopysci/coralee/.pseudopot"
/

&SYSTEM
    a                         =  8.32716e+00
    angle1(1)                 =  0.00000e+00
    angle1(2)                 =  0.00000e+00
    angle2(1)                 =  0.00000e+00
    angle2(2)                 =  0.00000e+00
    b                         =  8.98689e+00
    c                         =  2.52767e+01
    cosab                     =  6.12323e-17
    cosac                     =  6.12323e-17
    cosbc                     = -1.85547e-01
    degauss                   =  2.00000e-02
    ecutrho                   =  4.75221e+02
    ecutwfc                   =  5.03902e+01
    ibrav                     = 14
    nat                       = 48
    nbnd                      = 490
    nspin                     = 2
    ntyp                      = 2
    occupations               = "smearing"
    smearing                  = "gaussian"
    starting_magnetization(1) =  2.00000e-01
    starting_magnetization(2) =  2.00000e-01
/

&ELECTRONS
    conv_thr         =  1.00000e-04
    diagonalization  = "david"
    electron_maxstep = 1000
    mixing_beta      =  1.00000e-01
    mixing_mode      = "local-TF"
    startingpot      = "atomic"
    startingwfc      = "atomic+random"
/

&IONS
    ion_dynamics = "bfgs"
/

&CELL
/

K_POINTS {automatic}
 2  2  1  0 0 0

ATOMIC_SPECIES
N      14.00674  N.pbe-n-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF
W     183.84000  W.pbe-spn-kjpaw_psl.1.0.0.UPF

ATOMIC_POSITIONS {angstrom}
N       3.207882   2.672960  14.837784
N       7.371462   2.672960  14.837784
N       3.207882  -1.820484  14.837784
N       7.371462  -1.820484  14.837784
W       3.207882   4.882815  14.748648
W       7.371462   4.882815  14.748648
W       3.207882   0.389371  14.748648
W       7.371462   0.389371  14.748648
N       1.126093   5.365612  14.468179
N       5.289672   5.365612  14.468179
N       1.126093   0.872168  14.468179
N       5.289672   0.872168  14.468179
W       1.126093   3.038143  14.415413
W       5.289672   3.038143  14.415413
W       1.126093  -1.455301  14.415413
W       5.289672  -1.455301  14.415413
N       3.207882   5.336567  12.630078
N       7.371462   5.336567  12.630078
N       3.207882   0.843123  12.630078
N       7.371462   0.843123  12.630078
W       3.207882   3.052977  12.540942
W       7.371462   3.052977  12.540942
W       3.207882  -1.440467  12.540942
W       7.371462  -1.440467  12.540942
N       1.126093   3.535775  12.260473
N       5.289672   3.535775  12.260473
N       1.126093  -0.957669  12.260473
N       5.289672  -0.957669  12.260473
W       1.126093   5.701750  12.207706
W       5.289672   5.701750  12.207706
W       1.126093   1.208305  12.207706
W       5.289672   1.208305  12.207706
N       3.207882   3.506729  10.422372  0 0 0
N       7.371462   3.506729  10.422372  0 0 0
N       3.207882  -0.986715  10.422372  0 0 0
N       7.371462  -0.986715  10.422372  0 0 0
W       3.207882   5.716584  10.333236  0 0 0
W       7.371462   5.716584  10.333236  0 0 0
W       3.207882   1.223140  10.333236  0 0 0
W       7.371462   1.223140  10.333236  0 0 0
N       1.126093   6.199382  10.052766  0 0 0
N       5.289672   6.199382  10.052766  0 0 0
N       1.126093   1.705938  10.052766  0 0 0
N       5.289672   1.705938  10.052766  0 0 0
W       1.126093   3.871912  10.000000  0 0 0
W       5.289672   3.871912  10.000000  0 0 0
W       1.126093  -0.621532  10.000000  0 0 0
W       5.289672  -0.621532  10.000000  0 0 0

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 10:48, Matteo Cococcioni <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello,

it's very difficult to guess what is wrong in your input if you don't show
it.
In any case, if you have converged forces and stresses on cut-off(s) and
number of k-points/smearing, it might be a good idea to tighten your
convergence threshold and reduce the initial trust radius. Maybe your
forces and stresses are so loosely converged and your ionic/cell step so
big that the system moves to a configuration that is difficult to converge.
Or maybe your starting lattice parameter/ionic configuration are very far
from equilibrium and the system tries to make a big jump at the beginning.
Also, have you tried to start a new scf from the new ionic position?

Please add your affiliation

Regards,

Matteo

Il giorno mer 1 lug 2020 alle ore 13:45 Coralie Khabbaz <
[email protected]> ha scritto:

Hello,

I am doing a relax calculation on my WN (48 atoms) slab. The first step
of scf calculations converged but then the second step didn't converge in
1000 steps (which was my limit). So, the calculations stopped, and I got
many files (data-file.xml, charge-density.dat, paw.txt,
spin-polarization.dat...) but no output file. If my first scf step
converged doesn't that mean that all of my other scf steps should converge
but need more steps? Or is there a problem in my input file?
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