CP dynamics requires the existence of a gap in the electronic spectrum.

you can force cp.x to minimize the electronic state by using "cg" as electron_dynamics method.  I would use pw.x to perform BOMD but if you are more familiar with cp.x you can try that.

stefano

On 27/08/22 15:47, Jayraj Anadani wrote:
Hello sir,
I have one more question regarding this : can I perform the cpmd simulation method using cp.x in quantum espresso to simulate the metallic glass system ? I did this cpmd but I couldn't control the kinetic energy of the electrons because my system is amorphorse metallic and according to CP user guide the cpmd is not performing well with amorphous metallic systems. or is BOMD using pwscf by doing the reduce-T option is good for studying metallic glass ?

kindly suggest a feasible method to do DFT study of metallic glass alloys using quantum espresso package.

thank you

regards
jayraj anadani

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:04 PM Jayraj Anadani <[email protected]> wrote:

    I appreciate your help
    Thank you very much sir.

    On Fri, 26 Aug, 2022, 7:16 pm Stefano de Gironcoli,
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        I would take out small clusters from your 10000 cells
        (possibly saturate with H atoms if you cut covalent bonds),
        not relax (with the exception of relaxing the extra H atoms
        you added to saturate), compute atomic PDOS of the central
        atom(s) and verify that for increasing number of atoms in the
        clusters these quantities stabilize and converge.

        if a significant size dependence results you may want to play
        with the environ feature (http://www.quantum-environ.org/) to
        minimize boundary effects

        stefano

        On 26/08/22 15:01, Jayraj Anadani wrote:
        I have one amorphorse metallic system of 10000 atoms in which
        several clusters are in it. I want to calculate atomic
        bonding and electronic interaction through finding DOS/PDOS
        and Charge analysis of a small cluster part of a large
        amorphorse metallic system.
        My cluster size is upto 13 to 25 atoms which is part of large
        md simulation.

        So can i have to do relaxation or i can directly do scf
        calculation with restricted parameter ?

        Thank you

        On Fri, 26 Aug, 2022, 6:04 pm Stefano de Gironcoli,
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            I dont think that a 10-20 atom cluster configuration
            extracted from a 10000 condensed phase has anything to do
            with the same system at 300 K.

            possibly some electronic properties of the central
            molecule may be similar to the corresponding properties
            in the condensed phase but no guarantee.

            if you relax or perform md for the cluster you loose your
            (tiny) connection with the original cell.

            I fail to understand what is your problem and what you
            would like to compute/understand

            stefano

            On 26/08/22 13:52, Jayraj Anadani wrote:
            Thank you sir, for your reply
            but I have one particular molecular system of 10-20
            atoms which I am getting from a simulation of a large
            atom (around 10000 atoms) at a 300K temperature from a
            molecular dynamic simulation (LAMMPS). and I also did
            optimization of that MD structure which is
            amorphous metallic glass. Now,
             Can I do dft study of a small part of a single molecule
            of a large MD simulation(~10000 atoms) ?
            till now i did below things but i am bit confused which
            way is best way to study DFT . i also dis AIMD/CPMD but
            for metallic glass CPMD doesn't work good with PAW PP.
            so,
            1. Can I do direct SCF calculation(without relax) by
            giving a condition of *forc_conv_thr* and
            *tot_conv_thr* with creating a vacuum(for a non-periodic
            system) of around 15 Angstrom to converge properly. *OR*
            2. I should do the RELAX calculation with vacuum and
            then go to the *scf* calculation to find the total
            energy and then *nscf*.

            ***questions:
            1. what if I relax a system and position is changed a
            bit(which is obvious) to minimize the total energy but
            that energy is at zero kelvin dft calculation and I want
            to study the system at 300K. So how can small parts of a
            structure reflect large MD simulation structural properties?
            Thank you
            regards
            jayraj anadani
            Ph.D. Research scholar Department of physics
            sardar patel university
            india

            On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 5:00 PM Stefano de Gironcoli
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                Dear JAYRAJ ANADANI,

                  calculation="scf"  corresponds to a minimization
                of the total energy
                at fixed atomic positions. you chose where to put
                the ions. the code
                does its best to return the corresponding energy.

                  calculaiton="relax" corresponds to a series of scf
                calculations,
                followed by forces evaluation and geometry update to
                minimize the energy
                of the system. The code does its best to converge to
                a minimum (non
                necessarily the global minimum) in the GS potential
                energy surface.

                  there is no temperature in any of these calculations.

                  if you want to simulate the system at finite
                (classical) temperature
                for the atoms you should perform MD simlations

                stefano

                On 26/08/22 05:02, Jayraj Anadani wrote:
                > Dear QE
                >               I put H2O molecular atoms small far
                apart from each
                > other within large supercell so that the periodic
                image of the H2O do
                > not interact with each other and run a scf
                calculation my convergence
                > done successfully with good amount of accuracy
                upto 10^-9. But it is
                > not reflecting original H2O molecule at 300
                Kelvin...but when i
                > relaxing these atoms and then did scf calculation
                they are reflecting
                > H2O at 300k by observing bond angel and length..
                how ? And my question is
                > 1) scf is also doing calculation using iteration
                method algorithm by
                > using electronic densities at ground state so why
                they converge when
                > two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom are not at
                appropriate
                > distance.still scf converge how ?
                > 2) also by doing relax calculation all of sudden
                two hydrogen and one
                > oxygen come closer and they formed a bond and bond
                angel which is
                > reflect 300k H2O molecule structure. So how two
                hydrogen and one
                > oxygen atoms knows during relaxation that i have
                to make structure at
                > a room temperature?
                >
                >
                > Thank you
                > Regards
                >
                > JAYRAJ ANADANI
                > Ph.D Research scholar
                > Department of physics
                > Sardar Patel University
                > Anand,Gujarat,
                > India
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