Dear Lorenzo Paulatto, 

Thank you for your reply. I am replying with a separate thread. Of course 
surface effects can put a question mark for the approach. The following 
article, “A Reduction in Particle Size Generally Causes Body-Centered-Cubic 
Metals to Expand but Face-Centered-Cubic Metals to Contract” concludes that the 
metal to metal bond length decreases from center to the surface as well as the 
co-ordination number. 

But if the nano-grain size is bigger say in the range of 50 nm then may be the 
effect of surface will be decreased (in the above mentioned article the cluster 
size is less than 2 nm). Nevertheless, I am willing to take up the study in the 
near future. This approach would have the additional benefit that if the 
nano-grain experiences a negative hydrostatic pressure due to significant 
volume of grain-boundary present that can be added to the unit-cell. 

Best regards, 
Krishnendu 

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Maybe one could do something, i.e. Wannier functions are not too dissimilar 
from force constants. But would the effect of the surface properly taken into 
account? These are not simple questions, a proper study takes years, and starts 
with reading the available literature (which I have not done) 
Hth 

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Dear Lorenzo Paulatto, 

Can the finite size as a perturbation with Green function methods be added to 
pw.x calculations too ? For example can the Self-consistent field energy 
calculated for unit cell be modified with the Green function methods to that of 
a finite sized crystal ? 

Regards, 
Krishnendu 

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Dear Jahid, you have to decide precisely what you want, than you may be able to 
simulate it in different ways. A width of 10nm is probably too large for a 
direct DFT calculation of phonons, in this case you can use the phonons for the 
unit cell and add the finite size as a perturbation with Green function 
methods. I know a paper where this is done, but there are probably others, and 
other methods. https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-03011389 


Hth 


LP 
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Jahid Hasan Sagor <md.sagor at maine.edu> 
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Hi, 

Please help if you can. I am trying to find out the dispersion relation of 
graphene. I know that to find out the relation I have to use pw.x, ph.x, q2r.x 
and matdyn.x. But the problem is, after applying all the packages, I might get 
a phonon dispersion relation of graphene which is infinitely long in x and y 
direction. However, in my model I am using a finite width of graphene around 
10nm (24 unit cell in the vertical direction). Which command in QE can do this 
for me so that I can model a graphene which is infinitely long in x direction 
and 10 nm in y direction? 

Best Regards 
Md Jahid Hasan 
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