Dear Arini,

As a final remark, this is what experience tells us, but remember that proper 
testing should be directly performed on the desired property with a desired 
accuracy.
This means that a better practice could be e.g. to test  ``ecutfock`` on phonon 
frequencies at Gamma (i.e. only displacements in UNITCELL). This already gives 
a better idea of convergence, while still not going for expensive supercells.

If you are interested in more details, I’d suggest you the following paper, 
which I found particularly instructive: 
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41524-018-0127-2 
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s41524-018-0127-2>

Bests,
Lorenzo

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> Il giorno 12 apr 2023, alle ore 14:08, Arini Kar <[email protected]> ha 
> scritto:
> 
> Dear Lorenzo,
> 
> Your suggestion was helpful. The forces on the pristine unit cell did not 
> change after reducing ecutfock to 2*ecutwfc. Thanks a lot.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Arini
> 
> 
> 
> On 2023-04-12 13:26, Lorenzo Bastonero wrote:
> 
>> Dear Arini,
>>  
>> You should do some test first in the pristine unit cell structure before 
>> going forward to the supercell calculations. 
>>  
>> In principle, you could lower down even more that cutoff (and the qpoint for 
>> the fock operator as well). Usually a good threshold is ~10^-5 Ry/bohr on 
>> every atomic force component.
>>  
>> Note: this threshold is different from the one of the relax. So you should 
>> check that when changing your variables (ecutfock in this case) all your 
>> forces don't change within this threshold.
>>  
>> HTH,
>> Lorenzo 
>> 
>> Inviato da iPhone
>> 
>>> Il giorno 11 apr 2023, alle ore 20:45, Arini Kar via users 
>>> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> Dear users,
>>> 
>>> I am trying to run phonon calculations using phonopy. I am using norm 
>>> conserving pseudopotential. Can I use ecutfock = 2*ecutwfc instead of the 
>>> default value in the scf calculations? Would it affect the accuracy of 
>>> force calculations?
>>> 
>>> Thanking you.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Arini Kar
>>> 
>>> PhD student 
>>> 
>>> Indian Institute of Technology Bombay, India
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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