Dear Juliana, Indeed the ASR in the old QE version did not include the correct rotational invariants for 2D systems, i.e. you should have 4 acoustic modes at Gamma that are zero.
Although, having a closer look to your inputs, I would suggest you to pay attention to: 1. Why have you commented out ‘assume_isolated’? That is usually important to get rid of the long-range planar interaction between images. 2. The threshold for phonons seem a bit too low. Did you do some tests? In my experience that threshold should be much lower, e.g. 1e-16/18. HTH, Lorenzo ******************************** Lorenzo Bastonero PhD Student U Bremen Excellence Chair, Bremen Center for Computational Materials Science, and MAPEX Center for Materials and Processes University of Bremen Faculty of Production Engineering TAB-Building, Room 3.32 Am Fallturm 1 28359 Bremen, DE http://www.hmi.uni-bremen.de/ > Il giorno 8 giu 2023, alle ore 11:08, Paolo Giannozzi > <paolo.gianno...@uniud.it> ha scritto: > > I have heard that in 2D systems some acoustic sum rules may yield funny > results for acoustic modes close to q=0. The latest 7.2 version of the code > should contain an improved ASR. See > https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/merge_requests/1978 > <https://gitlab.com/QEF/q-e/-/merge_requests/1978> > > Paolo > > On 6/8/23 00:12, Juliana Maria Abreu Da Silva Morbec wrote: >> >> You don't often get email from j.mor...@keele.ac.uk >> <mailto:j.mor...@keele.ac.uk>. Learn why this is important >> <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification >> <https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification>> >> >> Dear Lorenzo. >> Thanks for your response. >> I am attaching here the input files for scf and phonon calculations of bulk >> MoS2, as well as output files of dynmat.x using asr='simple' and >> asr='crystal'. I also noticed that asr='no' give similar results to >> asr='crystal'. >> Regards, >> Juliana >> ----- >> *Dr Juliana Morbec* >> Lecturer in Physics >> Keele University, UK >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* users <users-boun...@lists.quantum-espresso.org> on behalf of >> Lorenzo Bastonero <lbast...@uni-bremen.de> >> *Sent:* 06 June 2023 14:28 >> *To:* Quantum ESPRESSO users Forum <users@lists.quantum-espresso.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [QE-users] asr in dynmat.x >> Dear Juliana, >> In principle at Gamma the acoustic sum rules should only affect the 3 >> acoustic modes, setting them to 0, and leave the other modes close to their >> values ( ~< 1/0.1 cm-1). >> If you are experiencing huge change in the wavenumber, it may probably be a >> sign of under converged calculations. 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