Hi! On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 17:23 -0400, David Steinbrunner wrote:
> It seems to me things become lost in the mailinglist which would likely > not in a issue/ticket/bug tracking system. Another thing is, Dag > appears to be a single point of failure for the issues noted above so > what would happen if he was permanently indisposed? Of course I personally would very much appreciate if we threw away the weird half-broken wiki that's been running unused for several years and install a Trac instance just like everybody else to have a wiki, bugzilla and integrated repo browser in one and the same place. Trac does have its limits, but come on, RPMForge is such a special project that it seems to me highly unlikely that we will ever hit the limits of any rudimentary version control system (in fact, we're not using even 10% of svn features I would guess), wiki and bug tracking system. But here you get everything at one place and it's tightly integrated. However, to my mind the biggest issue is of course Dag being the single point of failure rather then things getting lost on the mailing list. The historical reasons on why this happened are quite clear and the reasons why it stays this way are also not a terrible secret. We've been talking about organizing an independent build host with documented setup for the committers for quite awhile, so that everybody who has commit access to the repo can trigger builds and maybe even rights to promote the packages to the central repo. Also in case if one person disappears for any reason, the rest can re-create the missing piece of the infrastructure using the documentation. However, we only have a handful of people and most of them are overloaded with other issues. That's why it's moving on so slowly. The only way to really push it forward is to get involved. Sorry for this. For instance, nowadays I am employed full-time doing something which has nothing to do with RHEL per se and therefore I can only contribute updates to the packages which I personally need or there's a huge need for our internal infrastructure. Good lord :-) Yet another rant about nothing... Hmmm... to summarize: we are aware of the current situation and everybody's working on getting this fixed, but no one knows when we'll be able to actually fix it. -- Sincerely yours, Yury V. Zaytsev _______________________________________________ users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.rpmforge.net/mailman/listinfo/users
