> it is not goo practice to load the peer certificate
> (i.e. rightcert locally). Better copy the CA certificate
> which signed the peer certificate and issued all other
> certificates into the /etc/ipsec.d/cacerts/ directory
> so that trust can be established.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Andreas

Now that I'm back to a terminal, this worked like a charm. Added CA cert, 
removed local cert for remote system, removed line from ipsec.conf for 
rightcert, and restarted everything and I can talk both ways (as least on the 
test network).

Gary 

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