On 2009-10-16, at 5:59 PM, dreedyman wrote:


Jason,

Thanks for the followup. I've taken a look at m2eclipse, and I frankly dont see any examples of how to use embedding in a standalone way. Perhaps you
can point me to specific references?

The fundamental issue here seems to be bootstrapping the maven environment via the plexus container. It seems that we are either bound to running in a maven context, or running in Eclipse. The obvious requirement is running
*standalone*.

I'm being careful here to avoid a rant, but I must say that while I'm glad that "it will be supported as a whole for the community", right now using
this project from an API perspective is not what I expected.


Let me set your expectations then.

The number one priority for 3.0 is backward compatibility and stability. It has been no small task and we don't have infinite time. Settling on a set of APIs for embedding and documenting them will take time. It's going to be a non-traditional approach in Maven in that there is going to be documentation when they are published. We have ripped them apart internally and we are still changing them. We are not prepared to answer any questions about them because we are going to work toward solidifying a first version and writing documentation and then ask for feedback. If you expect us to document everything as we go along and provide perfectly working example then you expected wrong. It's an OSS project and it moves at the speed it moves at.

What we care about is making sure all our ITs run correctly and that's all we care about right now. Everything else is secondary at this point.


Dennis


jvanzyl wrote:

That it won't be supported until the 3.0 betas. The APIs are still
changing and official will arrive with documentation. Until then there
are plenty of examples in m2eclipse. It will be supported as a whole
for the whole community when it's ready.

There is no ETA for 3.0 yet.

On 2009-10-16, at 9:06 AM, dreedyman wrote:


Wow, I cant tell you how disappointed I am. Not just that the Maven
team will
not be supporting embedding in the 3.0 betas, but the brush off of
"go read
the source code".

So when is the delivery plan for 3.0 release planned?


jvanzyl wrote:

As I've stated on the dev list the embedder, or more accurately,
embedding will not be supported in the Maven 3.0 betas. Reading the
source code, or looking at M2Eclipse are your options for now.


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