On Monday 17 January 2005 00:03, Dion Gillard wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:31:09 +0100, Michael Schuerig

> > - Finding documentation for goals and properties.
>
> See the online documentation. In particular
> http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/plugins.html .

I've had open a large number of these pages for the past days. It would 
be easier, if I could the same info directly from within Maven.

> > Maven-based projects
> >
> > - Finding out which components and versions are available; choose a
> > set.
>
> ? This isn't specific to maven is it?

No, it isn't. But as Maven sets out to manage the build process, this is 
as task it could support. The functionality could be implemented, maybe 
it even is already, but it's not easy to find out.

> > - Selectively update the dependencies to newer available versions.
>
> maven jar:install or maven jar:install-snapshot ?

Yes, for projects that I'm building myself. Say I want to find out if a 
new version of log4j is available from the repository. I can use the 
SNAPSHOT mechanism and get the latest version without an opportunity to 
veto it. Also, this only works if the project indeed supplies a 
*-SNAPSHOT.jar; some (broken?) ones don't. Instead of this mostly 
manual procedure, I'd like to run maven update-dependencies or 
something and have Maven do most of the work. I only want to decide 
whether I condone the update or not.

> > - Defining properties (which ones are available? possible values?).
>
> See the documentation, specifically the User's Guide (
> http://maven.apache.org/reference/user-guide.html ).

I was thinking of plugin properties. Yes, I can hunt them down on the 
individual web pages. It would be easier if Maven would tell me about 
them.

> > - Easily(!) attaching source code and javadocs to components for
> > use in Eclipse.
>
> I'm not sure if the javadocs are automated for the eclipse plugin,
> but wouldn't the source suffice, since it has the javadoc in it. See 
> the plugin's documentation here
> http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/eclipse/ .

Yes, I know that it's possible to attach source. It's pretty unwieldy, 
though, involving a lot of manual work.


> I know of one: Maven - More than Magic by Milind Parikh. See
> http://www.milindparikh.com/

Thanks! That looks pretty good and promises to become very good. BTW, it 
doesn't seem to be linked from the Maven site.


Let me make it completely clear. It's great that lots of people put in 
the effort to create Maven, its documentation and plugins. Thanks for 
your work. Still there's a lot of room for improvement, particularly 
regarding the integration of the maven tool and the documentation.


Michael

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