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From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: samedi 30 avril 2005 09:38
To: 'Maven Users List'
Subject: RE: Timeline for release 1.1
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From: Arik Kfir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: samedi 30 avril 2005 04:00
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Timeline for release 1.1
Just wondering, is there a point in getting a 1.1 out, with m2 coming in
three-four months?
I, for one, would prefer that efforts go into making m2 better, faster,
leaner, meaner rather than into another m1 release, that probably won't
live too much after m2 is released...and don't forget the cost
maintaining one or two bug fix releases for 1.1 so...
You're kidding of course? I'm totally -1 to your idea. M2 is already a
pain in the neck for everyone already using Maven that it is a duty for
Maven to support as much as possible its existing users that it has
attracted for the past 3 years.
Also I think you don't imagine the effort there is for m2 to come even
close to m1 in term of plugins. It's not only a question of number of
plugins but also a question of the features and details each plugin has.
Arik, you ay not realize but Maven is not a small and unknown open source
project and it is being used in lots of major businesses. Migrating a m1
build to a m2 build is something that is far from being automated and it
will not happen before several years in lots of places. You want to keep
supporting these people and fix m1 bugs, etc.
Now all that said, you're already right (unfortunately): most maven core
committers have already switched to m2 and are not helping much on m1. I
bless Brett for doing so. He's doing a lot of good to Maven as a whole by
continuing to support m1. Gladly we also have some m1 users that are m1
plugin committers and that are continuing to improve/fix the existing
plugins.
Personally I would like to see as much refactorings as possible to bring
m1 as close as possible to m2 to make it an easier migration in the
future. This is what Brett has started by bringing the Model and Wagon to
m1.
I would like to see m1 plugins being refactored into plugins that can work
both in m1 and m2 (I think that ought to be possible in several cases but
we would probably need to develop a small m1 adapter layer). Alternatively
m2 plugins could be made to work in m1 by adding this adapter layer. I'm
still unsure whether this is possible but I've started experimenting with
it.
All that said, I'm also very excited to use m2. I have started to migrate
my existing open source projects to m1 and I can do that because these
projects are business-bound. I've also seen some limitations that
currently exist in m2 and that will hopefully be fixed soon.
Thanks
-Vincent, answering for all existing business users of m1 ;-)
Brett Porter wrote:
There are no plans at the moment. Since it is incorporating many of
the components from Maven 2 while remaining backwards compatible, the
current effort is going into Maven2.
- Brett
On 4/29/05, Gisbert Amm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Maveners,
can you already say when release 1.1 will be ready?
Regards,
Gisbert
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