Hi Nicolas,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicolas Chalumeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: mardi 7 juin 2005 21:38
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Re: [Mavenbook.org] What content would you like to see?

[snip]
 
> A really good thing but there's must be a good categorisation of the
> tips. ie common error, plugin dev tips.

That will come when we have lots of them. ATM we have published 4 tips only
and are adding one every week (roughly).

> But i don't think that specific
> plugin tips should be here. The better tips is where to find the good
> information source

I do agree that plugin tips should find their way in the plugin
documentation in the end. That said, it can be a 2 step process:
- tips can be given about using a special feature of a plugin
- the information can then be fed in the plugin's documentation

Also, I think that a plugin's tip is good as it'll serve as evangelizing a
specific feature of a plugin that might not have been found otherwise (there
are few people that spend all their time reading all the reference
documentation). So highlighting a special plugin feature is a good thing.

For example, I've just posted tip#4 about adding the download menu on the
generated web site
(http://mavenbook.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Tip4DownloadMenu). I think
it's a useful tip even though it's a plugin tip.

> I have the same point of view as you. More the official maven site IS
> the good place for annoucement. A web page that list the last
> version/annoucement of the plugin could be a good thing in the maven
> site for people that are not on the mailling list.

I have proposed a solution in an email to the maven dev list yesterday
(title: " RE: latest plugin releases on the maven download page "). Here it
is:

"
I think we should do the following:

- Have a CI for the Maven plugins web site so that it is published every few
hours
- If the site build fails, an email is sent to the maven dev mailing list
with the error
- Make sure the multichanges plugin gets built as part of the plugins site
(I've checked and it is actually still there in the report list, so it's
just a matter or running the site build)
- Improve the multichanges plugin to add a RSS feed.
- Advertise it

This will allow people to get a fresh list of the latest version of plugins.
This will allow them to get RSS notifications as soon as a new plugin is
released (and I'll stop what I've started on mavenbook.org, i.e. announcing
plugin releases).

WDYT?
"

[snip]

> A big propaganda page and feed back from compagny/user Things like :
> - how to make my development director choose to use maven.
> - What maven change in my every day job?
> - How to make my developer use maven when they say that there's IDE
> compile there java code and they don't need more?
> - Why maven make that I code better ?
> 
> I have some responce of this question that i have used but having some
> other point of view could be a good and interresting thing to read.

Sounds more like a wiki you're asking here, no? I guess this could be an
interesting thing to do on the Maven wiki.

The Mavenbook.org web site is more oriented towards news. For all content
and resources, I believe the main maven web site (or associated wiki) is a
better place.
 
> If you have write this book like the JUnit one I now this kind of
> information can be found in this one but having them online could be a
> good thing for the communauty

Some of it is there yes, but not that much. It's more a hands-on book (how
to do things rather than why to do them). This is the format of the O'Reilly
Developer Notebook series.

Thanks
-Vincent


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