On Wed, Oct 19, 2005 at 04:52:33PM -0700, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:40 +0200, Tomasz Pik wrote:
> > On 19/10/05, Marcel Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Couldn't someone from the maven development team ask Sun for their
> > > explicit permission to publish all these jars? As we say in Holland:
> > > 'Nee heb je, ja kun je krijgen' ('No you've got, yes you can get').
> > 
> > Here's link to story: 
> > http://maven.apache.org/project/sun-licensing-journey.html
> > In case if it disapear, here's the file in SVN repo: 
> > http://tinyurl.com/dxjwy
> 
> Yah, I gave up trying to get them to do anything. Too much of a waste of
> time as SUN didn't appear to have any interest in helping. 
> 

I believe that particular story ended in summer 2005 with Geronimo
writing their own Java Mail implementation from scratch as open
source software and going through the TCK for it. Judging by the news of
Geronimo passing the J2EE certification, it seems to have worked out,
where two years of talking about non-free licenses side-effects have
failed.

That seems to be a more effetive plan in general, than trying to get Sun
Microsytems to relicense their proprietary code base. See Geronimo, and
GNU Classpath projects for examples.

On a side note, any idea whether JSR 277 will be developped in an open
fashion, with an open source RI, like the concurrency JSR was?

cheers,
dalibor topic

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