This is an interesting thread one that strikes at the heart of open source in
the marketplace. A product paid for or not needs to be complete, functional and
correct. To stop short is just that. The documentation like QA testing is
required to consider the job complete. I am a long time coder and much prefer
the excitement of coding than the effort of documenting. I am also a new adopter
to Maven and cannot move over until this is closer to a complete product. Core
developers should complete documentation like test cases during checking, the
same goes for plug-ins.
A main concern around raised later in this thread about major open source
project that fail/die (e.g. XDoclet). It is hard to justify ones expense of time
to install, learn and configure a product if it is likely to fade away.

All that being said I add this email in the hopes that this excellent product
will continue to grow and thrive

Phill

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Griffa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 19, 2006 10:21 AM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Worst documentation in the whole apache projects

very well said!
I thinnk this kind ot mail would be totally ok in a commercial and expensive
support forum of a build system, but definetly not an open source one.

I also think documentation is a strong - in maven, but that's why I've tried to
help on it a little, contributing is the way,

On 1/18/06, Carlos Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You can choose:
> - using it with the documentation it has
> - create your own system and document it to the extent you want
>
> just good luck if you choose second option ;)
>
> On 1/18/06, Nanamura, Roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any way to improve all the documentation for the Maven.
> >
> > I will not use Maven anymore since there are a bunch of thing 
> > missing from the documentation (and a lot of things do not work like 
> > the J2EE archetype which is nowhere to be find and I am not the only 
> > one to complain about it).
> >
> > It is good for a simple project (then again, why should I need maven 
> > for a simple Hello World project?). But if you add a J2EE layer or 
> > other components, it simpy does not have document (for example no 
> > document for the topic: "Guide to creating a multi-module build"). 
> > Then how should I create a multi-project maven? What is this 
> > artifactId and groupID? What the hell it keeps on going to the 
> > repo1.maven.org repository for my sub-projects? What are the examples? No
samples?
> >
> > The reference is a joke. How can a reference be so laconious? It is 
> > a reference so every tag in the XML must have a good description 
> > (even the description in the generated xml is better than the reference!).
> >
> > I do not recommend Maven to anyone starting a serious project for 
> > lack of documentation and erroneous documentation.
> >
> > I spent the whole day try to make it work for a simple J2EE project, 
> > then I had to google it several times for each error (it should be 
> > in the document web-site).
> > Whereas I would take one hour to create the directories, my build 
> > and deployment ant targets.
> >
> > Thanks but I'd rather do not use it,
> >
> > Roberto
> >
> >
> >
>
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