Thanks for the reply. I am currently just testing this process out
locally to build a case to use Maven, so I haven't set everything up
yet, but I will take a look at the proxies.

I took a look at the main repository and it seems to have some of the
same issues I had mentioned earlier. I understand the requirement to
hand build some POMs, but I'm still seeing Spring in three or four
different places. Is there a standard version to use?

I do somewhat disagree with the statement that this would be harder
with ANT. In ANT, I can just drop the dependencies into my lib/ folder
and they are picked up. Tracking them down is usually not an issue
since most major projects come with their own dependencies. Converting
the 20+ libs references in Hibernate requires me to look up each one
in the Maven repository to get the correct references and I might have
to add those if they don't exist yet. All in all, it seems much more
painful than a standard ANT set up, at least in this respect.

I do still think that a Mavenized build has a lot to recommend even if
some of the dependencies need to be massaged :).

Thanks,
Jarret

On 1/30/07, Eric Redmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The official repository location is http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/ ... check
out the hibernate data there (upgrade to at least maven 2.0.4).

Also: you must set up an in-house repository[1]. This is not really optional
for an enterprise setup... where else can you put your own generated
artifacts for all to use? If you find discrepencies in public repository
setups, having your own repository is the best way to control that (in which
case, yes, you may have to put a hand-written pom w/ real dependencies in
there). It's also necessary when you require the ability to share a
closed-source or licensed artifact through-out the org. Luckly the cases of
this in practice are kind of rare. Once your repo is up, you won't have to
touch it too often. Plus, think of Ant... you have to manually grab the
dependencies for those - so it's not like you're doing MORE work.

A good proxy (about 8 months old) is Proximity[2]. If you want something
sanctified by the Maven team, check out Archiva[3][4] (still in development,
but usable).

[1] http://www.devx.com/Java/Article/32386
[2] http://proximity.abstracthorizon.org/
[3] http://maven.apache.org/archiva/
[4] http://coderoshi.blogspot.com/2006/12/apache-archiva-part-one.html

Eric

On 1/30/07, Jarret R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to make a case for our development environment to
> switch to using Maven for our build processes, however I am running
> into some problems that I would like to see if anyone has answers too
> :).
>
> We want to be able to specify which version of which jar we want to
> use. I can solve this by creating a maven proxy and an internal maven
> repository, but this leads to my main problem.
>
> Maven repositories are not consistent.
>
> If I look at http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/, I can see
> that under hibernate/hibernate the newest version listed is 3.1rc.
> However this entry is invalid as it does not contain the dependencies.
> This resource [http://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.hibernate/hibernate]
> specifies that 3.2.1ga is available. This is not obvious from looking
> at Ibiblio, but when I put this entry into my pom, it almost downloads
> (fails on a JTA dependency). What is the best way to determine what
> jars are available in the repository?
>
> The core issue is that this inconsistency is unacceptable for our
> process. I need to be able to pick any version of a library (including
> the newest) and have it 'just work'. How are others handling this? Are
> you all writing your own poms for internal repositories? This seems
> tedious since Hibernate can have 20+ dependencies that have to be hand
> coded into the pom file. This problem also occurs for PostgreSQL since
> the latest Maven definition I could find was for 7.x and we are on
> 8.1.
>
> Another example is the Spring Framework. As far as I can tell, Spring is
> in:
>
> spring/
> springframework/
> org/spring
> org.springframework/
>
> and so on. Each of these directories contain different collections of
> the spring jars. Why are there so many? What is the right one?
>
> Can anyone shed some light on how to manage Maven in a corporate
> environment where I need to be able to specify any version of any jar?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jarret Raim
>
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