I like to compare it to pure JDBC vs. Object relational tools.
With OR you lose control of the small details but overall you get a
better, simpler solution, worrying on the aspects you really care
about
On 5/8/07, Graham Leggett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, May 7, 2007 6:24 pm, Peter Kahn wrote:
> How does maven's declarative convention over configuration stack up
> against scripted solutions like buildr, groovy/ant or scons when it
> comes to maintenance costs for large projects?
Scripted systems have an Achilles heel - build systems are not the primary
task at hand in a large project, the code is. As a result scripted build
systems are generally poorly designed and implemented, even though the
tools on which they are built (like ant) are top notch quality. The
scripted systems in every large project I've ever encountered were
complex, incomprehensible, platform specific and incomplete, and
ultimately thrown out.
The standardisation efforts of maven save a fortune - in our case on a big
project, releasing the project takes the form of "mvn release:prepare" and
"mvn release:perform", and that is it. This means that any member of a
project team can make a release, and that release will probably work first
time, or fail for very clear and obvious reasons.
> "how sustainable is maven for large scale projects"
Implementing maven is not a walk in the park in a complex project.
There are times when the classic maven design philosophy of "let maven
figure this out for you" doesn't always hold true, meaning you have to
understand enough about the build process to make sure things work
together.
Some of the maven plugins are not as reliable, or as complete than others.
But - having implemented a maven build system, all the maven features,
from release management, to documentation management, come for free. This
investment in standardisation pays big dividends in the future.
In short, the bigger the project, the more useful maven becomes.
Regards,
Graham
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