On Nov 17, 2007, at 10:55, Aaron wrote:
So, to sum up this thread and try and avoid mis-interpretations:
1) Mbuni/Kannel can generate the WAP-Push SMS messages that can be
sent via an SMS Aggregator to a mobile phone.
That mobile phone would then follow its normal MMS routine. i.e.
download the MMS message via the WAP link enclosed in the WAP-Push SMS
message. This is all done over regular internet IP network.
2) Mbuni can also receive MMS messages via similar routine. Have an
SMS message come in, be routed from the Aggregator to Mbuni, which
then downloads the MMS message from the WAP link. This is all done
over regular internet IP network.
Alternatively, both 1 and 2 can be done either separately, or together
over a GPRS serial attached modem.
Yes
You say below that the operators often block connecting to a
non-operator WAP site? Are you referring to the WAP gateway setting on
the mobile phone? Or the WAP APN Setting? And am I correct in saying
that the WAP-Push message simply contains a URL, and that URL
effectively is any internet routable IP address which happens to serve
the MMS content?
Because this kind of WAP-Push is received by the MMS client within
the phone, the download will often be attempted over an MMS-specific
APN. The settings I have seen typically block all URL requests via
the MMS APN except to the operator MMSC
Thank you, everyone, for your patience in answering my questions. It
sounds like Mbuni is a great product, and once I get a little less
confused and start to really understand the capabilities it probably
will do exactly what we need.
--Aaron
On Nov 16, 2007 8:03 PM, P. A. Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2007, at 22:46, Aaron wrote:
Paul,
Thank you for the quick response and the answers. I have a few more
questions based on your responses.
On the subject of sending to an Aggregator, I was refering to an SMS
Aggregator, and using that to send the WAP-Push SMS messages.
Would it
be possible to send those messages out via the Aggregator instead of
using a GPRS modem?
You can of course send hte WAP-Push SMS, but note that WAP-Push is
not enough for MMS delivery.
When you refer to MM7, this would be a direct, internet IP based
connection to the carriers SMPP? I am currently in the US and I
don't
believe we are able to get that kind of access, or not without
alot of
fees.
MM7 is a direct IP protocol, however the SMPP reference was just by
way of comparison (SMS vs MMS). MM7 has nothing to do with SMPP.
When talking about having the WAP-Push message to the phone contain
the IP which is a regular server hooked up to the internet with
Mbuni,
you said that the phones could pull the MMS message that way, "Up
to a
point". What do you mean by that? What limitations would there be?
You can send the notification to the phone and have it pull the
message over IP if your operator does not block this (often they do).
--Aaron
On Nov 16, 2007 11:35 AM, Paul Bagyenda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi Aaron,
answers below
On 11/16/07, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
I am evaluating Mbuni to use for my company, and I have a few
questions.
1) From what I've read in google/mail list searches, would it be
correct to say that Mbuni (with kannel) would be able to send
an MMS
to a MSISDN?
Yes,
2) Going along with 1, if I currently have connection to an SMS
aggregator, would it be possible to have Mbuni/Kannel push the SMS
message through the aggregator and obviate the need for a GSM/GPRS
modem?
SMS Aggregator or MMS Aggregator? SMS and MMS work very
differently from
each other so you need to be sure.
3) What I've read indicates that Mbuni is currently unable to
send an
MMS messages to a carrier's MMSC directly and have the carrier
worry
about delivery supposing I have a GSM/GPRS modem, corect?
It can send directly, using MM7 (think SMPP for MMS) or MM1 using
a GPRS
modem.
4) If using an aggregator is possible, the SMS WAP-Push message
gets
sent through there, all I need is a regular internet IP address
for
Mbuni/Kannel to have the mobile phone pull the MMS message from?
Up to a point yes.
Thank you very much for your replies. If some of the
functionalityy
does not currently exist, but would be desirable from the
community,
we might be interested in helping with the development. I am
specifically thinking of connecting to an SMS aggregator, but it
isn't
limited to that.
You will need to first be clear that the Aggregator can aggregate
MMS. The
MMS architecture is very different, and in some respects more
complicated
than SMS, so it is key that you understand it well before
committing to the
aggregator.
--Aaron
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