On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Mark Wallsgrove <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> #Emmanuel
> The reason why I asked was due to a lack of understanding of Mina. The
> documentation never stated such a fact, so regarded it as being
> something odd.


It *is* in the documentation:
http://mina.apache.org/tutorial-on-protocolcodecfilter-for-mina-2x.html

" without a ProtocolCodecFilter [...]  multiple calls of IoSession.write(Object
message) can lead to a single messageReceived event"

Maarten



> But none the less there is no need to be aggressive
> about someone being inquisitive.
>
> #Will
> Thanks for your explanation. Something like that should be noted in
> the documentation. It gives the impression that you only need to deal
> with packets being fragmented.
>
> Best Regards,
> Mark Wallsgrove
>
>
> 2009/11/13  <[email protected]>:
> > Hello Mark
> >
> >    I think it is a bad idea to every trust a "packet" unit in tcp (what
> you receive in one receive call, or send in one send call) as a unit which
> you can depend on. TCP works with streams rather than packets, so anything
> you view as a unit on the sending side is not guaranteed to be a unit on the
> receiving side, whether that is too much or too little in one receive/send
> call. A size header or delimiter (or a constant size) is need to determine
> if you have enough to pull a message from the stream, or (as it sounds in
> your case), where you should stop reading from the stream for a given
> message.
> >
> > Will
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Wallsgrove" <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 12:08:11 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> > Subject: Re: Multiple Messages being recieved at the same time..
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > Thanks for the quick replies. Surely this isn't due to fragmentation?
> > Wouldn't fragmentation come down to multiple reads per network packet
> > being sent? Which would be fine, but all the messages that are being
> > sent fit within a single tcp/ip packet and are being received as a
> > single packet.
> >
> >>>A message is not a "packet". You can have several messages in one
> "packet" or several "packets" for one message.
> >
> > I have one message per packet, and it is received as one packet also..
> > When I view Wireshark it clearly shows a time gap between the two
> > receives and the fact the tcp/ip packet isn't full. This isn't a
> > problem with it being incomplete, its a problem with it being over
> > complete.
> >
> > From reading the documentation I got the feeling that you have to cope
> > with the received data not being complete and not that you have too
> > much information.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Mark Wallsgrove
> >
> > 2009/11/13 Mikhail Gerdov <[email protected]>:
> >> Nature of TCP/IP lead to the fact that MINA can not guaranty that
> >> every Send call will result to exactly one Read call.
> >> There are ways to fight it by providing custom Decoder to handle
> fragmentation.
> >> Please read this:
> >> http://mina.apache.org/handling-packet-fragementation.html
> >> and look at CumulativeProtocolDecoder examples.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Mark Wallsgrove
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Mina
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >> Mikhail Gerdov                                     mailto:
> [email protected]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Mark Wallsgrove
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Mark Wallsgrove
>

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