Thanks!  You gave me two URLs that are the same, however.

Michael

Matthias Wessendorf wrote:

Michael,

Hans Bergesten has two online articles
regarding JSF and events:

http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/excerpt/JSF_chap8/index.html


and


http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/excerpt/JSF_chap8/index1.html

HTH,
Matthias



-----Original Message-----
From: Michael McGrady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:31 PM
To: MyFaces Discussion
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need some design ideas



I have never actually understood events. Does someone have a good tutorial or a good application (not the java GUI stuff) to learn from?


Michael

Sean Schofield wrote:



* A value change listener does not have to be a separate

class that

is registered by a nested tag in the page -- for the standard components, at least, you can use a method binding:

<h:inputText ... valueChangeListener="#{mybean.myListener}"/>




True. But this would still be tedious to add this attribute

to all of

the input tags.





* To transparently listen to *all* the events, one can gain an inspiration from understanding how event firing is actually

done. A

component that wants to fire an event will call (on itself) the queueEvent(FacesEvent) method. The default implementation of this calls queueEvent() on the parent component, and so on up to the UIViewRoot at the root of the tree, which does the actual broadcasting later. If you had a parent custom component

around the

form, or a custom form component itself, it could "notice" all the value change events that were being emitted and do something interesting with them.




Yes .... this was along the lines of what I was thinking.





As to general architectural style, I don't personally build applicatons based on fine grained changes to individual fields ...




I can see why you would think this tedious but my situation may be a bit unique. We have lots of fields on the form and each field potentially requires some special processing (not just saving the
field.) We have a workflow engine connected to this


application that

performs various operations on the workflow depending on which field changes. Also, we log all of the changes to the underlying

"document"

in the application. So if someone changed the document

owner from x to

y we'd want to log that.

Would this change your opinion of my approach or do you

still think the

approach you outlined would be better?





Indeed, the Shale Use Cases example app (nightly builds at
<http://svn.apache.org/builds/struts/nightly/struts-shale/>)
illustrates my thoughts on how you do stuff like this




OK. OK. I give up. Its time for me to look at your Shale

stuff in more

detail ;-)

I had been waiting until I had a sufficient level of

understanding of

JSF before diving into Shale so as to not overwhelm myself. But the scenario you just outlined is too tempting to not look

further! Even

though I'm not sure its right for me for this particular

problem, I'm

interested in some of the ways in which you manage your

backing beans,

etc.

Thanks for the good ideas (as usual).





Craig




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