Well, we could probably just ask Craig for a copy, but it doesn't play well to have two copies of the same code in the ASF codebase.
Is Craig listening to that? Wdythink? regards, Martin On 5/26/05, IdRatherBeSailing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shale and MyFaces are two entirely different > projects > > started by two entirely different groups of people. > > The only thing they have in common in JSF. > > Agreed completely. And MyFaces Extensions is a set of > extensions to core JSF that should work on any JSF > according to its description. > > > If you like the commons validator stuff for JSF then > > you are going to have to end up using Shale. > > That's a non-starter. While JSF and Struts are > already accepted by the market, customers and mgmt, > Shale is still too new (near zero market share, still > under early development not release...). While I'd > love to start playing with Shale, it's not going to > make into my or my customers' deployed apps anytime > soon, while JSF and common JSF extension tags (like > MyFaces Extensions) could. > > > One thing I can say for 100% sure is that there is > > no point in MyFaces adding something that is > > already available in Shale. > > Completely disagree with you on that one. Adding > something shale-specific to MyFaces makes no sense. > Adding a JSF tag(s) that would be of use to all users > of any JSF (since JSF validators ootb leave a bit to > be desired) across all JSF implementations (JSF is > supposed to be a standard, so apps you build with JSF > should run on all JSF impls where possible) to MyFaces > Extensions (not MyFaces core) makes complete sense. > > If Shale had an extension library that had useful JSF > tags that could be used across all JSF > implementations, then I could see your point. But > Shale is a new framework that's not yet done and it > has now embedded these useful-across-the-JSF-board > tags within the Shale Core such that you couldn't use > them without including the Shale core in your app. > > Struts didn't include commons-validator within Struts > core, it's a separate subproject so that it could be > used across other projects that had similar needs. > > > Shale is new techonology but then again so is > > MyFaces and JSF for that matter. > > JSF is shipping in several commercial IDEs already, > and thus has market and mindshare. Shale, while cool > and interesting does not yet have that luxury. I > hope that it does at some point, but I would still > like to see generally useful JSF tags included in the > JSF project extensions not in a superset framework > project. > > Thanks, and I know these questions are more oriented > toward Craig and David than you and the MyFaces PMC, > but I was hoping someone on the MyFaces Extensions > contributor team would offer to add this functionality > to the MyFaces extensions (at which point Craig and > David could decide whether to keep their own copy in > the Shale "core" or to depend on the MyFaces > extensions like other JSF apps and JSF supersets > could). > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
