This is a good article.  I don't mind criticism of JSF (or MyFaces)
from people who have taken the time to seriously explore it.  Its hard
to dimiss a new technology unless you have given it a serious try.

These guys have used JSF for an application and *then* reached their
final conclusions.  For the most part, their criticisms of the spec
and MyFaces are spot on.  I would have liked to have seen a rundown of
what they liked about JSF in addition to a list of problems and how
they solved them.

sean



On 8/8/05, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, it is a good article.  The author states that there is not yet a
> standard name for the scope that lies somewhere between a request and a
> session.  In projects I've worked on, we've called that a
> "conversation."
> 
> So we have the following scopes:
> 
> 1. Request (supported automatically)
> 2. Conversation (requires custom coding, e.g., using <x:saveState>)
> 3. Session (supported automatically)
> 
> When using Struts, we built a framework that used an xml file to specify
> which actions used which beans, and then, upon execution of each
> request, our framework automatically deleted from the Session those
> beans that were not in the list for the action being invoked on that
> request.  That was our "conversation."
> 
> I'm anxious to try out <x:saveState> to see how it compares....
> 
> - Brendan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Punz
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 3:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: great article
> 
> 
> Btw... I have added links in the wiki to this
> absolutely great article.
> 
> Werner
> 
> 
> ir. ing. Jan Dockx wrote:
> > I just found a GREAT article:
> >
> >
> <http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=49
> 81&showComments=true>
> >
> >
> > Thanks, UCB!
> >
> > Met vriendelijke groeten,
> >
> > Jan Dockx
> >
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