The tapestry approach is the same approach that both Shale Clay and Facelets take.
For facelets, take a look at this URL: https://facelets.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/dev/docbook.html#taglib-use-jsfc For Clay, take a look at Tapestry, as I'm pretty sure they're going to use the Tapestry template parser, according to this Shale issue: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35839 -Mike On 8/9/05, albartell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I attended OSCON last week and was introduced to Tapestry, JSF's > "competitor". Tapestry doesn't have the exact same problems as JSF because > instead of creating a whole new line of tags it uses existing HTML tags > (i.e. <input>) and marks them up further by adding new attributes to them. > This aids in graphical development for non-JSF compliant editors because the > <input> tag will still render as it should when going into preview mode. > > Note that there was talk on the Dreamweaver site of having support for JSF > in the future. I haven't looked at it in several months, so I don't know > the status of it. > > On my last project I was fortunate enough to have a designer that was > looking forward to the challenge of doing JSF in Dreamweaver, and it all > worked out. But I know where you are coming from. > > Aaron Bartell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindholm, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:47 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Web designers want to work with there favorite web design tools > > > My biggest concern (right now) with switching to JSF is having to teach our > web designers JSF tags. > They want to work in HTML and JavaScript and use there favorite web design > tools (e.g. Dreamweaver). > They also often have to begin designing the pages and flow etc before any of > the application is ready. > > If our web designers can't use there favorite tools they become > significantly less productive and a fair bit cranky. > > This seems to me like a significant obstacle to adoption. > > I heard about an HTML template mechanism using Shale (doesn't seem like it's > quite ready yet.) I've seen an occasional reference to HTML/JSF templates > here without much detail. > > Can anyone tell me what is available now in the JSF world that will keep the > web designers happy and productive? (Are these ready for real use now?) > > (Sorry for the cross-posting, I posted a similar message to the Struts list > regarding Shale but I really wanted to hear what the MyFaces group has to > say.) > >

