The tapestry approach is the same approach that both Shale Clay and
Facelets take.

For facelets, take a look at this URL:

https://facelets.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/dev/docbook.html#taglib-use-jsfc


For Clay, take a look at Tapestry, as I'm pretty sure they're going to
use the Tapestry template parser, according to this Shale issue:

http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=35839

-Mike


On 8/9/05, albartell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I attended OSCON last week and was introduced to Tapestry, JSF's
> "competitor". Tapestry doesn't have the exact same problems as JSF because
> instead of creating a whole new line of tags it uses existing HTML tags
> (i.e. <input>) and marks them up further by adding new attributes to them.
> This aids in graphical development for non-JSF compliant editors because the
> <input> tag will still render as it should when going into preview mode.
> 
> Note that there was talk on the Dreamweaver site of having support for JSF
> in the future.  I haven't looked at it in several months, so I don't know
> the status of it.
> 
> On my last project I was fortunate enough to have a designer that was
> looking forward to the challenge of doing JSF in Dreamweaver, and it all
> worked out. But I know where you are coming from.
> 
> Aaron Bartell
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lindholm, Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Web designers want to work with there favorite web design tools
> 
> 
> My biggest concern (right now) with switching to JSF is having to teach our
> web designers JSF tags.
> They want to work in HTML and JavaScript and use there favorite web design
> tools (e.g. Dreamweaver).
> They also often have to begin designing the pages and flow etc before any of
> the application is ready.
> 
> If our web designers can't use there favorite tools they become
> significantly less productive and a fair bit cranky.
> 
> This seems to me like a significant obstacle to adoption.
> 
> I heard about an HTML template mechanism using Shale (doesn't seem like it's
> quite ready yet.) I've seen an occasional reference to HTML/JSF templates
> here without much detail.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what is available now in the JSF world that will keep the
> web designers happy and productive? (Are these ready for real use now?)
> 
> (Sorry for the cross-posting, I posted a similar message to the Struts list
> regarding Shale but I really wanted to hear what the MyFaces group has to
> say.)
> 
>

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