yes, that's actually a cool feature of JSF.

This parallel serialization framework which is not quite
serialization, but does just as well ;)

comes in handy very often!

regards,

Martin

On 8/12/05, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can also implement the StateHolder interface if that's easier for
> you than using Serailizable.
> 
> On 8/12/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It does exactly what "serialization" does - so it goes through the object
> > tree and tries to save it, except you modify this by applying "transient" to
> > attributes or overwriting the methods for serialization/deserialization of
> > the Bean itself.
> >
> >
> >  regards,
> >
> >  Martin
> >
> > On 8/12/05, Dennis Byrne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Sorry to be one of those who ask something they could just do
> > > themselves, but does it just recursively crawl an object
> > > graph?
> > >
> > > All my business beans are hibernate proxies, and I would hate
> > > for x:saveState to trigger a lazy loading of the entire
> > > database.
> > >
> > > ---- Original message ----
> > > >Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:57:07 +0200
> > > >From: Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: saveState mystery
> > > >To: MyFaces Discussion <[email protected]>
> > > >
> > > >   saveState serializes the property of the bean (or
> > > >   the bean itself) to - depending on your settings for
> > > >   state saving in the web.xml, CLIENT_SIDE or
> > > >   SERVER_SIDE -  to the browser or the server
> > > >   session...
> > > >
> > > >   regards,
> > > >
> > > >   Martin
> > > >
> > > >   On 8/12/05, Dennis Byrne < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     Thank you for the reply.  I take it the @value
> > > >     typically
> > > >     points to a property of a managed bean?
> > > >
> > > >     I am currently reconstructing an object graph for
> > > >     each
> > > >     request by hammering the DB.  Worse, this is in
> > > >     the
> > > >     constructors of the backend beans, rather than
> > > >     bound methods,
> > > >     for some user actions in order to avoid NullPExs
> > > >     that occur
> > > >     when request values are applied to an null object
> > > >     model.  I
> > > >     lose navigation options in the event of problems
> > > >     because
> > > >     contructors have no return values.
> > > >
> > > >     It sounds as though saveState can serialize
> > > >     it?  Just
> > > >     curious, where's the bean go?  Serialized to the
> > > >     browser, or
> > > >     some place on the file system?
> > > >
> > > >     ---- Original message ----
> > > >     >Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 07:55:20 +0200
> > > >     >From: Mads Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >     >Subject: Re: saveState mystery
> > > >     >To: MyFaces Discussion <
> > > >     [email protected]>
> > > >     >
> > > >     >x:saveState solves many problems by letting you
> > > >     save the
> > > >     state of a
> > > >     >request scope bean between requests. That is, it
> > > >     feels like
> > > >     having a
> > > >     >session scope bean as long as you need it. But
> > > >     you don't
> > > >     need to worry
> > > >     >about cluttering the session with unused
> > > >     data,  As soon as
> > > >     you leave
> > > >     >the pages containing the x.savestate, the object
> > > >     is removed.
> > > >     >
> > > >     >We are using x.savestate all over our website,
> > > >     and has
> > > >     reduced the
> > > >     >number of session scope beans to one. That is the
> > > >     object
> > > >     holding the
> > > >     >user identification.
> > > >     >
> > > >     >/madsph
> > > >     >
> > > >     >On 8/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >     < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >     >>
> > > >     >> My shop is standardizing on a CRUD model; the
> > > >     arguments
> > > >     center around
> > > >     >> request vs. session scope.  What does
> > > >     x:saveState do?
> > > >     >>
> > > >     >> The javadocs for this element are incredibly
> > > >     informative.
> > > >     >> http://myfaces.apache.org/tlddoc/tomahawk/
> > > >     >>
> > > >     >> Dennis Byrne
> > > >     >>
> > > >     Dennis Byrne
> > > Dennis Byrne
> > >
> >
> >
> 


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