Yes, get us the beef ;)
You can change something if you are motivated (and motivate others), that's for sure! regards, Martin On 8/26/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/25/05, ir. ing. Jan Dockx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Trust me, I love the work you're doing. And I don't want to make > > enemies. > > I'm standing on the sidelines on this particular issue, but it is > worth making a point here ... people who end up making major > contributions to the open source community tend not to pay any > attention to "we've always done it this way" sorts of limitations, and > go do their own thing. In the context of the current discussion, you > are making a *horrendously* incorrect assumption. Why do you *care* > if the existing MyFaces developers think a wiki is the right way to > accumulate sufficient useful documentation in the short term? > > Just do it. > > If your idea works ... that is, we see MyFaces users gather together > and actually create significant quantities of documentation of > significant quality, the very concept will catch on like wildfire. > From what I know of the PHP community, this certainly seems to be > possible. On the other hand, if nobody contributes, you will have > turned out to be one of the many idealists who have a great idea for > what someone *else* should do, but nobody else buys in to doing the > actual grung work. > > The assumption that whatever user-developed wiki based documentation > *must* be blessed by the MyFaces developers as "official" is > ridiculous -- *please* go create the documentation that you, and other > MyFaces users, need!!!!! I can vouch for the fact that the MyFaces > developers are "smarter than the average bear" (yes, dating myself to > Yogi Bear cartoons :-). If what you create causes a groundswell of > participation, the MyFaces developers would be foolish to ignore it. > > On the other hand, maybe nobody else other than you actually cares > enough to contrbute to this effort. Then, it's perfectly legitimate > for the MyFaces developers to switch over to a totally different (yes, > still US-centric :-) TV commercial paradigm, and ask "where's the > beef?" > > For the last year or so, I've taken on the personal mantra (related to > open source involvement) that "code speaks louder than words". In the > global context of making open source a globally used technology, > documentation is at *least* as important as code. > > So, where's the beef? > > Craig McClanahan > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Trainings in English and German

