Aha, I've found you! http://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?t=947528
> -----Original Message----- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Werner Punz > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Hibernate: 1-to-many --> struggling > > Duncan Krebs wrote: > > Hey, > > Here are my two cents. The biggest obstacle with Hibernate > is figuring > > out how to correctly map the stupid collections and > relationships that > > are modeled in your object model. I did not take the time > to look at > > all your code but maybe this will help you out: > > > The mapping is one obstacle, the other one is dealing > correctly with the dreaded m:n relations, there is a huge > lack of good documentation in this area, I hope the next > release of Hibernate in action will resolve that... > > Hibernate is not a toy but it is harder to grasp in some > areas than a straight database approach via jdbc. > I am just wondering all the time when I am banging my head > again for hours against some weirdness which was caused > mostly by a mistake of mine, due to lack of understanding / > documentation in a certain area, if there cannot be a sane > middleground somewhere. > > > now it is getting really off topic ;-) >

